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It's been >2 hours and we're still waiting for your examples and/or sources.

vogre 7y ago
https://www.wsj.com/articles/fired-by-google-a-republican-engineer-hits-back-theres-been-a-lot-of-bullying-11564651801 https://www.wsj.com/articles/fired-by-google-a-republican-en...
- elbrian 7y ago
  Kevin was fired for promoting alt-right views on internal message boards at Google, and not for supporting a protest. He made several of his co-workers uncomfortable enough to report him to their managers, who gave him several warnings before rightfully terminating him as an employee. Here's a more detailed write-up about Kevin Cernekee, what he stands for, and why no one wants to work with him (link below). https://medium.com/@mikewacker/the-other-side-of-kevin-cernekee-a88fd6b81606 https://medium.com/@mikewacker/the-other-side-of-kevin-cerne... edit: Thanks for the downvotes, too. I'm sorry you couldn't contribute more (read: anything) to this thread.
  - vogre 7y ago
    He was fired for his political position, which is, AFAIK, not a rare case in US companies. In the link you provided it's clear he was hated and fired for political discussions in mailing lists.
    - elbrian 7y ago
      By political discussions, you mean openly supporting (and fundraising at Google for) white pride organizations?
      - vogre 7y ago
        Well yes. Supporting political organisation is the form of political activity. He was bullied and fired for these actions only, I don't see any mentions that he was annoying people any way other than expressing his views. How is that different from penalising people for supporting violent protests?
        elbrian 7y ago
        > Supporting political organisation is the form of political activity. White power may be a tenant of many different political factions, but it is not a political ideology in itself. White power is a racist belief. That's it. > He was bullied and fired for these actions only, I don't see any mentions that he was annoying people any way other than expressing his views. I don't see any evidence that Kevin was bullied in any way. Did you not read my last reply to you, before making this reply? Kevin was fund raising, using Google resources, for white supremacy groups.
        vogre 7y ago
        >Kevin was fund raising, using Google resources, for white supremacy groups. If he would fundraising, using Google resources, for LGBT groups, would he be fired?
        elbrian 7y ago
        One group stands for supremacy, while the other stands for equality. Why are you are using a false equivalence to make a point?
        vogre 7y ago
        Because both are just a political stances. If it's okay for you to punish for one stance and not to punish for another then you are pro-censorship. So don't be surprised when companies start to censor people you like - you allowed them to do that.
        7y ago
testACCT321 7y ago
Tons of youtubers have been deplatformed/demonitized. Anytime a company fires someone, deplatforms or demonitizes for "Hate Speach" that would meet the broad definition of anti-free speech.
syshum 7y ago
Sorry i have a job and can not sit on HN news all day... As to examples, it is clear by your comments you do not want actual examples but rather just want to move the goal posts Cancel Culture is very real, people are terminated from jobs all the time based on their personal posts on twitter, Facebook, Instagram etc, or other comments online that "offend" a certain segment of the population that is perpetually offended at everything and then pressure employers to fire those people. Happens every day, across this nation
- elbrian 7y ago
  You really couldn't be bothered to come up with one single example? Yikes.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/fired-by-google-a-republican-engineer-hits-back-theres-been-a-lot-of-bullying-11564651801 https://www.wsj.com/articles/fired-by-google-a-republican-en...

elbrian 7y ago
Kevin was fired for promoting alt-right views on internal message boards at Google, and not for supporting a protest. He made several of his co-workers uncomfortable enough to report him to their managers, who gave him several warnings before rightfully terminating him as an employee. Here's a more detailed write-up about Kevin Cernekee, what he stands for, and why no one wants to work with him (link below). https://medium.com/@mikewacker/the-other-side-of-kevin-cernekee-a88fd6b81606 https://medium.com/@mikewacker/the-other-side-of-kevin-cerne... edit: Thanks for the downvotes, too. I'm sorry you couldn't contribute more (read: anything) to this thread.
- vogre 7y ago
  He was fired for his political position, which is, AFAIK, not a rare case in US companies. In the link you provided it's clear he was hated and fired for political discussions in mailing lists.
  - elbrian 7y ago
    By political discussions, you mean openly supporting (and fundraising at Google for) white pride organizations?
    - vogre 7y ago
      Well yes. Supporting political organisation is the form of political activity. He was bullied and fired for these actions only, I don't see any mentions that he was annoying people any way other than expressing his views. How is that different from penalising people for supporting violent protests?
      - elbrian 7y ago
        > Supporting political organisation is the form of political activity. White power may be a tenant of many different political factions, but it is not a political ideology in itself. White power is a racist belief. That's it. > He was bullied and fired for these actions only, I don't see any mentions that he was annoying people any way other than expressing his views. I don't see any evidence that Kevin was bullied in any way. Did you not read my last reply to you, before making this reply? Kevin was fund raising, using Google resources, for white supremacy groups.
        vogre 7y ago
        >Kevin was fund raising, using Google resources, for white supremacy groups. If he would fundraising, using Google resources, for LGBT groups, would he be fired?
        elbrian 7y ago
        One group stands for supremacy, while the other stands for equality. Why are you are using a false equivalence to make a point?
        vogre 7y ago
        Because both are just a political stances. If it's okay for you to punish for one stance and not to punish for another then you are pro-censorship. So don't be surprised when companies start to censor people you like - you allowed them to do that.
        7y ago

testACCT321 7y ago

Tons of youtubers have been deplatformed/demonitized. Anytime a company fires someone, deplatforms or demonitizes for "Hate Speach" that would meet the broad definition of anti-free speech.

syshum 7y ago

Sorry i have a job and can not sit on HN news all day... As to examples, it is clear by your comments you do not want actual examples but rather just want to move the goal posts Cancel Culture is very real, people are terminated from jobs all the time based on their personal posts on twitter, Facebook, Instagram etc, or other comments online that "offend" a certain segment of the population that is perpetually offended at everything and then pressure employers to fire those people. Happens every day, across this nation

elbrian 7y ago
You really couldn't be bothered to come up with one single example? Yikes.