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How do Europeans feel about the Kurds these days? When I was growing up in Germany in the 70s and 80s they weren't super popular but I'm guessing with Turkey tu

How do Europeans feel about the Kurds these days? When I was growing up in Germany in the 70s and 80s they weren't super popular but I'm guessing with Turkey turning to fundamentalism the attitudes have changed?

supahfly_remix 7y ago
Why would Germans have had an opinion at all on Kurds? Were there a number that immigrated there in the 70s or earlier?
- brosinante 7y ago
  There's other reasons to have opinions about populations being systematically oppresssed besides them being immigrants (or refugees).
  - supahfly_remix 7y ago
    Opinions derived from what? Personal experience? The media? History books?
- zwieback 7y ago
  Mainly because there are so many Turkish workers in Germany and they were in-fighting with the Kurds way back when, some of it spilled over and there was some violence in Germany.
  - supahfly_remix 7y ago
    I see, thanks for explaining.
ardit33 7y ago
Hard working people, family oriented, mostly (but not all) muslim, they tend to be moderate about religion.... especially compared with the craziness that goes around them.... They got the short stick of the dividing of the area, and their lands were used as a 'loot' to divy up by the great powers... They ended up as a nation without a country. They have faced great persecution over times, even mass gassing (in Iraq by Sadam) They have every-right should form a their own country... and they have been a good ally to the US, but Trump is messing it up and just letting Erdogan have free rein the area....
- malandrew 7y ago
  You can really be a nation without a country. Once you lose your country, your only option is to try and become the adoptee of some other nation.
- darkhorn 7y ago
  Very much familyoriented https://ekurd.net/related-articles/honor-killings-in-kurdish-society https://ekurd.net/related-articles/honor-killings-in-kurdish...
saiya-jin 7y ago
I don't have any personal Kurdish friends, but generally I see a lot of sympathy for the fighting spirit they showed in past years against strong enemies and also perceived 'fairness' of their struggle (I mean they fought ISIS, they face turkish army and Turkey is evil player these days). This covers fight in Syria, and Iraq. The stuff they did/do within Turkey is I think more complicated but I don't feel I know enough to judge. Yet another reminder of how old colonialism was properly evil force and how it fucked up the world for centuries when state lines were drawn by clueless and/or evil politicians.
darkhorn 7y ago
A bit problematic https://www.dailysabah.com/war-on-terror/2019/02/08/civil-servants-murder-by-pkk-terrorist-in-austria-sparks-outrage https://www.dailysabah.com/war-on-terror/2019/02/08/civil-se... https://www.dailysabah.com/investigations/2018/11/08/pkk-controls-80-pct-of-drug-trade-in-europe-earns-15b-annually-interior-minister-soylu-says https://www.dailysabah.com/investigations/2018/11/08/pkk-con...

supahfly_remix 7y ago

Why would Germans have had an opinion at all on Kurds? Were there a number that immigrated there in the 70s or earlier?

brosinante 7y ago
There's other reasons to have opinions about populations being systematically oppresssed besides them being immigrants (or refugees).
- supahfly_remix 7y ago
  Opinions derived from what? Personal experience? The media? History books?
zwieback 7y ago
Mainly because there are so many Turkish workers in Germany and they were in-fighting with the Kurds way back when, some of it spilled over and there was some violence in Germany.
- supahfly_remix 7y ago
  I see, thanks for explaining.

ardit33 7y ago

Hard working people, family oriented, mostly (but not all) muslim, they tend to be moderate about religion.... especially compared with the craziness that goes around them.... They got the short stick of the dividing of the area, and their lands were used as a 'loot' to divy up by the great powers... They ended up as a nation without a country. They have faced great persecution over times, even mass gassing (in Iraq by Sadam) They have every-right should form a their own country... and they have been a good ally to the US, but Trump is messing it up and just letting Erdogan have free rein the area....

malandrew 7y ago
You can really be a nation without a country. Once you lose your country, your only option is to try and become the adoptee of some other nation.
darkhorn 7y ago
Very much familyoriented https://ekurd.net/related-articles/honor-killings-in-kurdish-society https://ekurd.net/related-articles/honor-killings-in-kurdish...

saiya-jin 7y ago

I don't have any personal Kurdish friends, but generally I see a lot of sympathy for the fighting spirit they showed in past years against strong enemies and also perceived 'fairness' of their struggle (I mean they fought ISIS, they face turkish army and Turkey is evil player these days). This covers fight in Syria, and Iraq. The stuff they did/do within Turkey is I think more complicated but I don't feel I know enough to judge. Yet another reminder of how old colonialism was properly evil force and how it fucked up the world for centuries when state lines were drawn by clueless and/or evil politicians.

darkhorn 7y ago

A bit problematic https://www.dailysabah.com/war-on-terror/2019/02/08/civil-servants-murder-by-pkk-terrorist-in-austria-sparks-outrage https://www.dailysabah.com/war-on-terror/2019/02/08/civil-se... https://www.dailysabah.com/investigations/2018/11/08/pkk-controls-80-pct-of-drug-trade-in-europe-earns-15b-annually-interior-minister-soylu-says https://www.dailysabah.com/investigations/2018/11/08/pkk-con...