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Cool games! I like stuff like this, but I have never understood really the meaning of making it under a specific size?

setr 7y ago
Constraints typically feed innovation; it also levels the competition playing field to some degree, and controls what kind of games gets produced, and what tooling is used/viable. And thus changes the expected audience to the challenge -- ideally, everyone there is interested in the same goal, with varying experience; the kinds of goals that will appear depends on the constraints imposed
k__ 7y ago
Constraints can help to get to creative solutions. Lines of code/package size, libraries used, performance requirements, deadlines, etc.
gnode 7y ago
It originates in the constraints of hardware, particularly 8 and 16-bit computers with typically 4K or 64K addressable memory. Starting with the modification of existing games, it became a challenge to push how impressive a program could be made (typically an audiovisual demonstration "demo"). Such hardware becoming obsolete added to the impressiveness. Demo and game competitions without constraints exist, but naturally become a competition of art and design, where use of existing engines is rewarded, discouraging programmers. The constrained competitions can be more appealing to programmers, where programming creativity is better rewarded.
- cr0sh 7y ago
  Just a bit of historical update - most 8-bit machines topped out at 64k of memory (8 bit data, 16 bit address space), but some could do more with extra hardware or "tricks" (paging a special 8k block using a custom MMU or similar); even then, memory tended to be limited just due to cost if nothing else. 16-bit machines usually had a larger address space; the Motorola 68000 had a 24-bit address bus, for instance. While that allowed for quite a bit of memory, again (at least for most consumer hardware) most people were limited to at first 512k to 1Mb, then as the early-90s wore on, up to about 8Mb - at which point 32-bit cpus became affordable. So the only place you really saw larger amounts of memory (and this is more my understanding than experience, as I was just a kid then) with 16-bit machines was usually businesses and other "larger scale" computing that had the need and finances to afford it. As always, I suppose.

setr 7y ago

Constraints typically feed innovation; it also levels the competition playing field to some degree, and controls what kind of games gets produced, and what tooling is used/viable. And thus changes the expected audience to the challenge -- ideally, everyone there is interested in the same goal, with varying experience; the kinds of goals that will appear depends on the constraints imposed

k__ 7y ago

Constraints can help to get to creative solutions. Lines of code/package size, libraries used, performance requirements, deadlines, etc.

gnode 7y ago

It originates in the constraints of hardware, particularly 8 and 16-bit computers with typically 4K or 64K addressable memory. Starting with the modification of existing games, it became a challenge to push how impressive a program could be made (typically an audiovisual demonstration "demo"). Such hardware becoming obsolete added to the impressiveness. Demo and game competitions without constraints exist, but naturally become a competition of art and design, where use of existing engines is rewarded, discouraging programmers. The constrained competitions can be more appealing to programmers, where programming creativity is better rewarded.

cr0sh 7y ago
Just a bit of historical update - most 8-bit machines topped out at 64k of memory (8 bit data, 16 bit address space), but some could do more with extra hardware or "tricks" (paging a special 8k block using a custom MMU or similar); even then, memory tended to be limited just due to cost if nothing else. 16-bit machines usually had a larger address space; the Motorola 68000 had a 24-bit address bus, for instance. While that allowed for quite a bit of memory, again (at least for most consumer hardware) most people were limited to at first 512k to 1Mb, then as the early-90s wore on, up to about 8Mb - at which point 32-bit cpus became affordable. So the only place you really saw larger amounts of memory (and this is more my understanding than experience, as I was just a kid then) with 16-bit machines was usually businesses and other "larger scale" computing that had the need and finances to afford it. As always, I suppose.