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> You're pretty invested in being an American, skin in the game, manifest destiny etc. Huh? You just described maybe 1 in 10 Americans. We genuinely do not car
by apocalyptic0n3 7y ago
> You're pretty invested in being an American, skin in the game, manifest destiny etc.
Huh? You just described maybe 1 in 10 Americans. We genuinely do not care about "manifest destiny" and many of us don't put much value in being American either. I'm not even sure what you mean by "skin in the game"
> Let's say one day some stupid little state that you don't care about and vaguely resent decides it wants to secede, wants all these rights others don't have, wants to be able to marry its cousins or make nukes at home or whatever. Alabama, go with them. Alabama wants to secede and they have some demonstrations. You think: "hahahaha no"
But Hong Kong doesn't want to secede. They want to keep the freedoms they've had for decades and prevent an oppressive government from restricting those freedoms. Your example is entirely different and opposite sides of the spectrum.
A more apt example would be the Occupy protests that happened throughout the western world close to a decade ago. Those were about returning the status quo to what it was before greed took it too far from the middle class. Looking back, it was highly ineffective. But those were months-long protests that hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of people took part in and for the most part, every day citizens who were not taking part in the protests supported them (or were at least indifferent). Tools were built to help these protesters find where to go and where to avoid (as with all large scale protests) and they were never an issue.
Heck, one of the most widely used apps in the US is Waze and one of the primary appeals of it is the crowd sourced police location data. Law enforcement has complained about it, but no actions have been taken against it and no one seems to have any real issue with it.
- 66543throwaway 7y agoDidn’t Americans freak out over a few players kneeling for the anthem? Didn’t Americans freak out when Black Lives Matter protesters blocked the highway? A tactic the Hong Kong protestors are using? Didn’t Americans make fun of Occupy Wall Street?
- eeZah7Ux 7y agoNot all of them - you are generalizing. Not all of them - you are generalizing. Not all of them - you are generalizing.
- CrystalLangUser 7y agoThis account was created ~20 minutes ago and is engaging in whataboutism with the US on Hong Kong related topics. Interesting. “Americans” aren’t one singular entity. Some people didn’t like it when protestors blocked a highway, other people supported it.
- opportune 7y agoThose aren’t middle class tech coastal people though, more like older middle Americans who get all their news from the TV I expect old Chinese people to be jingoistic but if educated young people are that’s just a sad testament to how little creative/critical thinking is encouraged in China
- YLvkLU 7y agoHow many of those American protestors were thrown in prison camps and murdered by the government? Hint: zero.
- mrlala 7y ago>Didn’t Americans freak out over a few players kneeling for the anthem? Looks like you fell exactly for the Trump propaganda. Saying "Americans" "freaked out" over the kneeling thing is so ridiculous I don't even know where to start. Trump tried to make it a big deal, and probably 0.0001% of his stupid supporters like /r/the_donald try to make it a big deal so that someone like you thinks it's a big deal. Trump has been extremely effective at some things, I'll give him that.....
- baby 7y agoThat’s the big difference between the west and mainland China. We are used to criticize the government in the west, nationalism is just normal in mainland China.