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Democracy just means you managed to convince more idiots to say A rather than B. It's not like it is really an admirable state of affairs. Billionaires have t

Democracy just means you managed to convince more idiots to say A rather than B. It's not like it is really an admirable state of affairs. Billionaires have to at least be competent enough to make their money, and shelter it from the thieving governments and other leeches that are trying to suck it away from them.

SolaceQuantum 7y ago
"Billionaires have to at least be competent enough to make their money, and shelter it from the thieving governments and other leeches that are trying to suck it away from them." Is this actually true? At having that much money you can hire someone to be competent for you in wealth management.
bilbo0s 7y ago
>It's not like it [democracy] is really an admirable state of affairs. So, what is an "admirable state of affairs" if democracy is so objectionable to you?
- ctdonath 7y ago
  Individual liberty. Individuals choosing to engage in mutually beneficial activities, rather than being told at implied gunpoint to do what a bunch of ignorant strangers, or a tyrannical dictator, decided.
  - bilbo0s 7y ago
    >Billionaires have to at least be competent enough to make their money, and shelter it from the thieving governments and other leeches etc etc etc and >rather than being told at implied gunpoint to do what a bunch of ignorant strangers You are clearly emotionally driven on this issue so it's probably best that I step out of this discussion. You have a good day guy.
    - ctdonath 7y ago
      I'm fact driven. Democracy is, literally, a majority deciding what laws all must adhere to. They don't know/care about a minority's circumstances/needs/choices, yet impose their ill-informed will through the police power of the state (to wit, obey or we'll use force increasing up to and including death). Show me how that's not true.
      - AnimalMuppet 7y ago
        > Show me how that's not true. Stating an insane position, even one with internal logic, and then saying "show me how that's not true" does not make your position either correct or convincing. What's more, your position is very much the one in the minority. It is incumbent upon you to convince us, or else you will simply be ignored. You haven't done anything like a credible attempt to do so.
jazzyk 7y ago
I agree with you on the democracy point, however: Only 56% of all billionaires are self-made. Others inherited their money (the Walton family, the Rockefellers, eetc.) https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/10/wealthx-billionaire-census-majority-of-worlds-billionaires-self-made.html https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/10/wealthx-billionaire-census-m...

SolaceQuantum 7y ago

"Billionaires have to at least be competent enough to make their money, and shelter it from the thieving governments and other leeches that are trying to suck it away from them." Is this actually true? At having that much money you can hire someone to be competent for you in wealth management.

bilbo0s 7y ago

>It's not like it [democracy] is really an admirable state of affairs. So, what is an "admirable state of affairs" if democracy is so objectionable to you?

ctdonath 7y ago
Individual liberty. Individuals choosing to engage in mutually beneficial activities, rather than being told at implied gunpoint to do what a bunch of ignorant strangers, or a tyrannical dictator, decided.
- bilbo0s 7y ago
  >Billionaires have to at least be competent enough to make their money, and shelter it from the thieving governments and other leeches etc etc etc and >rather than being told at implied gunpoint to do what a bunch of ignorant strangers You are clearly emotionally driven on this issue so it's probably best that I step out of this discussion. You have a good day guy.
  - ctdonath 7y ago
    I'm fact driven. Democracy is, literally, a majority deciding what laws all must adhere to. They don't know/care about a minority's circumstances/needs/choices, yet impose their ill-informed will through the police power of the state (to wit, obey or we'll use force increasing up to and including death). Show me how that's not true.
    - AnimalMuppet 7y ago
      > Show me how that's not true. Stating an insane position, even one with internal logic, and then saying "show me how that's not true" does not make your position either correct or convincing. What's more, your position is very much the one in the minority. It is incumbent upon you to convince us, or else you will simply be ignored. You haven't done anything like a credible attempt to do so.

jazzyk 7y ago

I agree with you on the democracy point, however: Only 56% of all billionaires are self-made. Others inherited their money (the Walton family, the Rockefellers, eetc.) https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/10/wealthx-billionaire-census-majority-of-worlds-billionaires-self-made.html https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/10/wealthx-billionaire-census-m...