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This is their Blizzard moment. So Apple are just the same as Google , Facebook and the rest of them , top please their shareholders for the almighty buck. So

This is their Blizzard moment. So Apple are just the same as Google , Facebook and the rest of them , top please their shareholders for the almighty buck. So the lesson here is to rather use the Android platform if you want "freedom".

Illniyar 7y ago
Hkmap.live is available on the google play store. You can also sideload whatever app you want. So not "the same" as google.
Razengan 7y ago
> So Apple are just the same as Google > So the lesson here is to rather use the Android platform ..... do people even read the scripts they're given
- Yetanfou 7y ago
  Some do, some don't. Those who do have not yet found anything nefarious but it certainly is possible for some bad apple to end up in the pile of code which makes up an Android distribution. The difference between the paradigms is that it is possible to tailor an Android distribution to your needs (which includes leaving out Google-proprietary code) where it is not possible to do so for iOS and its derivatives. Where (AOSP-based) Android users can 'trust but verify' (a contradictio in terminis given that those who trust should not feel the need to verify) iOS users are left nothing but 'trust'. This trust has been broken several times when it comes to the PRC.
s3r3nity 7y ago
> So Apple are just the same as Google... > So the lesson here is to rather use the Android platform if you want "freedom". I doubt you're going to get much more "freedom" from a Google owned platform if you think the two companies are just as bad...unless you're prepared to root the device to hell to the point of almost replacing the OS completely. SIDEBAR: Facebook is banned in China, partly because FB didn't want to comply with the censorship / surveillance requirements, iirc. Though someone who has more knowledge of the situation could probably clarify. Nevertheless I'm not sure why you lumped them into the actions of Apple or Google.
- Andrew_nenakhov 7y ago
  At least on Android you can (at least, for now) load an .apk from a developer website,or install an alternative store, or even F-droid. Apple must be coerced by law to allow app sideloading and third-party app stores on iOS devices.
- RealStickman 7y ago
  It's far easier to install a different rom without Google Apps on android than change the os of an iphone.
roca 7y ago
Facebook and Google are mostly banned in China already, so the CCP has little leverage over them. Apple is significantly more vulnerable to CCP pressure ... and it's showing.

Illniyar 7y ago

Hkmap.live is available on the google play store. You can also sideload whatever app you want. So not "the same" as google.

Razengan 7y ago

> So Apple are just the same as Google > So the lesson here is to rather use the Android platform ..... do people even read the scripts they're given

Yetanfou 7y ago
Some do, some don't. Those who do have not yet found anything nefarious but it certainly is possible for some bad apple to end up in the pile of code which makes up an Android distribution. The difference between the paradigms is that it is possible to tailor an Android distribution to your needs (which includes leaving out Google-proprietary code) where it is not possible to do so for iOS and its derivatives. Where (AOSP-based) Android users can 'trust but verify' (a contradictio in terminis given that those who trust should not feel the need to verify) iOS users are left nothing but 'trust'. This trust has been broken several times when it comes to the PRC.

s3r3nity 7y ago

> So Apple are just the same as Google... > So the lesson here is to rather use the Android platform if you want "freedom". I doubt you're going to get much more "freedom" from a Google owned platform if you think the two companies are just as bad...unless you're prepared to root the device to hell to the point of almost replacing the OS completely. SIDEBAR: Facebook is banned in China, partly because FB didn't want to comply with the censorship / surveillance requirements, iirc. Though someone who has more knowledge of the situation could probably clarify. Nevertheless I'm not sure why you lumped them into the actions of Apple or Google.

Andrew_nenakhov 7y ago
At least on Android you can (at least, for now) load an .apk from a developer website,or install an alternative store, or even F-droid. Apple must be coerced by law to allow app sideloading and third-party app stores on iOS devices.
RealStickman 7y ago
It's far easier to install a different rom without Google Apps on android than change the os of an iphone.

roca 7y ago

Facebook and Google are mostly banned in China already, so the CCP has little leverage over them. Apple is significantly more vulnerable to CCP pressure ... and it's showing.