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This is just a specific form of my "Google as an organization is out to get you (and willing to lie in their privacy policy)" threat. It may sound more reasonab

This is just a specific form of my "Google as an organization is out to get you (and willing to lie in their privacy policy)" threat. It may sound more reasonable to you, but its still the same set of actions.

Nextgrid 7y ago
We just had 2 incidents where both Facebook and Twitter broke their privacy policy by using phone numbers for ad targeting when they were only supposed to use them for 2FA & account recovery. I wouldn’t trust a company with personal data while their main business model depends on violating your privacy, just like you wouldn’t trust an alcoholic with guarding a warehouse full of vodka. The only way to be somewhat sure is to deal with companies that have zero uses for your personal data - this will not mitigate the risk of a malicious employee poking around but will at least mitigate the risk of large-scale data misuse like ad targeting because there’s simply no ads to target and no infrastructure to do so.
- joshuamorton 7y ago
  In this context, we're discussing gsuite, which doesn't use any data for ad targeting. Edit: from the privacy policy: > No. There are no ads in G Suite Services or Google Cloud Platform, and we have no plans to change this in the future. We do not scan for advertising purposes in Gmail or other G Suite services. Google does not collect or use data in G Suite services for advertising purposes.
  - Nextgrid 7y ago
    We're talking about a company that makes the bulk of its money with ads, running a (supposedly ad-free) product on the same infrastructure that the ad-contaminated products run on. There's both a risk of accidentally misusing data given the two services share infrastructure and code, as well as a business incentive to commit such "accidents", especially given both Facebook and Twitter set a precedent that there's absolutely no downside in doing so.

Nextgrid 7y ago

We just had 2 incidents where both Facebook and Twitter broke their privacy policy by using phone numbers for ad targeting when they were only supposed to use them for 2FA & account recovery. I wouldn’t trust a company with personal data while their main business model depends on violating your privacy, just like you wouldn’t trust an alcoholic with guarding a warehouse full of vodka. The only way to be somewhat sure is to deal with companies that have zero uses for your personal data - this will not mitigate the risk of a malicious employee poking around but will at least mitigate the risk of large-scale data misuse like ad targeting because there’s simply no ads to target and no infrastructure to do so.

joshuamorton 7y ago
In this context, we're discussing gsuite, which doesn't use any data for ad targeting. Edit: from the privacy policy: > No. There are no ads in G Suite Services or Google Cloud Platform, and we have no plans to change this in the future. We do not scan for advertising purposes in Gmail or other G Suite services. Google does not collect or use data in G Suite services for advertising purposes.
- Nextgrid 7y ago
  We're talking about a company that makes the bulk of its money with ads, running a (supposedly ad-free) product on the same infrastructure that the ad-contaminated products run on. There's both a risk of accidentally misusing data given the two services share infrastructure and code, as well as a business incentive to commit such "accidents", especially given both Facebook and Twitter set a precedent that there's absolutely no downside in doing so.