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Except they all have remote control "employee inside." https://www.wired.com/story/designated-driver-teleoperations-self-driving-cars/ https://www.wired.com/st

Except they all have remote control "employee inside." https://www.wired.com/story/designated-driver-teleoperations-self-driving-cars/ https://www.wired.com/story/designated-driver-teleoperations...

ehsankia 7y ago
That's a mandatory system they need to be on the street [0] > But those cars won’t be operating completely unmanned — at least for now. Under these regulations, driverless cars being tested on public roads must have a remote operator monitoring the car, ready to take over as needed. That remote operator — who will be overseeing the car from a location outside of the car — must also be able to communicate with law enforcement as well as the passengers in the event of an accident. That being said, the way Waymo does it is different from other companies. As HN can understand, adding the ability to remote access a car is very very risky. Waymo on the other hand has the ability to suggest a path to the car, and the car will itself locally evaluate to see if the suggested path is safe before executing it. So it's not quite a "remote control" access. [0] https://www.vox.com/2018/2/26/17053898/driverless-cars-self-driving-california-dmv-remote-operated-autonomous-testing https://www.vox.com/2018/2/26/17053898/driverless-cars-self-...
gpm 7y ago
How many cars can one employee be "inside of"? If that number is an order of magnitude higher than 1 the cost of these employees is probably relatively negligible.
- catalogia 7y ago
  If it's an order of magnitude larger than one, then it's probably a pointless exercise anyway. What mortal can honestly say they're attentively watching 10 streams at once? A car accident can happen in the blink of an eye, if you're dividing your attention between several streams it would be very easy to have a slow reaction time to a child jumping out into the street, for instance.
  - gpm 7y ago
    If the goal is to react to children jumping into the street, you're right, it wouldn't work. If the goal is to have the car be able to ask for help when it's confused though, it would likely be fine.

Except they all have remote control "employee inside." https://www.wired.com/story/designated-driver-teleoperations-self-driving-cars/ https://www.wired.com/story/designated-driver-teleoperations...

ehsankia 7y ago

That's a mandatory system they need to be on the street [0] > But those cars won’t be operating completely unmanned — at least for now. Under these regulations, driverless cars being tested on public roads must have a remote operator monitoring the car, ready to take over as needed. That remote operator — who will be overseeing the car from a location outside of the car — must also be able to communicate with law enforcement as well as the passengers in the event of an accident. That being said, the way Waymo does it is different from other companies. As HN can understand, adding the ability to remote access a car is very very risky. Waymo on the other hand has the ability to suggest a path to the car, and the car will itself locally evaluate to see if the suggested path is safe before executing it. So it's not quite a "remote control" access. [0] https://www.vox.com/2018/2/26/17053898/driverless-cars-self-driving-california-dmv-remote-operated-autonomous-testing https://www.vox.com/2018/2/26/17053898/driverless-cars-self-...

gpm 7y ago

How many cars can one employee be "inside of"? If that number is an order of magnitude higher than 1 the cost of these employees is probably relatively negligible.

catalogia 7y ago
If it's an order of magnitude larger than one, then it's probably a pointless exercise anyway. What mortal can honestly say they're attentively watching 10 streams at once? A car accident can happen in the blink of an eye, if you're dividing your attention between several streams it would be very easy to have a slow reaction time to a child jumping out into the street, for instance.
- gpm 7y ago
  If the goal is to react to children jumping into the street, you're right, it wouldn't work. If the goal is to have the car be able to ask for help when it's confused though, it would likely be fine.