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Related: what's the name for this tactic in debate? Where a dissenter insistently demand citations so that the conversation has to pause and then the dissenter
by uoaei 7y ago
Related: what's the name for this tactic in debate? Where a dissenter insistently demand citations so that the conversation has to pause and then the dissenter nitpicks the citation instead of the argument, effectively derailing the conversation.
It's hard to see this account (jbang5) as anything but an internet troll who, if not literally on the payroll from the Chinese government, is still a useful idiot for their cause.
- stale2002 7y agoYeah, it is an interesting tactic, but I've actually developed an effective counter to it. What I usually do, to counter this trolling tactic, is to provide them with the source that they were asking for, and then I call them an idiot for not being aware of such an obvious fact. Because, by definition, they are uninformed about the matter, as they didn't know about the source and had to ask for it. So I just make fun of them for not knowing about it, and rub it in their face when I provide the information that they asked for and didn't know about. If you have to ask for sources on the matter, you are by definition "ignorant" on the matter.
- bduerst 7y agoThe term is Sea Lioning, though that typically comes with a repetition of forced burden-of-proofs on the presenter. Based off of this web comic: http://wondermark.com/c/2014-09-19-1062sea.png http://wondermark.com/c/2014-09-19-1062sea.png
- jbang5 7y agoI encourage you to apply more skepticism to those spreading their opinions as facts. “Apple says it alone would control the encryption keys, and Chinese authorities do not have any “backdoor” to access data.”