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Isn't this more like duplicating everyones house key? He never actually went into the houses.

by JauntyHatAngle 7y ago

inakarmacoma 7y ago
Only if you can know he didn't actually go in. Even now, do you believe he never liked at a single private file?
- lordlic 7y ago
  What possible reason would I have to lie about it? You think I'm worried about investigators raiding my VPN service so they can track down and charge a grown-ass man in juvenile court for something that happened 15 years ago? You think I'm worried about my reputation on this throwaway account with a grand total of five previous comments? What's the point in believing that this whole escapade happened at all if you're going to randomly doubt a particular element of it? I was a kid, I was stupid, but I wasn't an asshole. I didn't go peeking and violating people's privacy because that would have been a dick move. Just like tons of people on Hacker News today have access to personal data on SaaS systems we maintain and don't go peeking. Just like tons of people are perfectly capable of picking their neighbor's locks but don't walk into their house for no reason. It's not even tempting. I don't care what's in my neighbor's house, and I don't care what's in random other students' homework documents or email or whatever. The only interesting part was breaking the security.
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waway 7y ago
Except he went in the Admin's house: > I'd just log in with the admin account and run pwdump
- lordlic 7y ago
  Just to be clear, in case this matters, it wasn't an account belonging to an administrator, it was a default superuser account called (if I remember right) "TECH" in all caps, and didn't have any files or anything in it. It's not like it was a person and I was poking around their private stuff.
jakobegger 7y ago
If someone secretly stole my key and made a copy of it, I hope the court would send them to jail, regardless of why they made the copy.
- dunmalg 7y ago
  No, it's generally not illegal to copy someones key. It's illegal to STEAL the key, of course, but copy? Not a crime. Some states have laws that prohibit "providing access" to a government facility which can be applied to copying government keys, but your house key? Nope. SOURCE: am locksmith

Isn't this more like duplicating everyones house key? He never actually went into the houses.

inakarmacoma 7y ago

Only if you can know he didn't actually go in. Even now, do you believe he never liked at a single private file?

lordlic 7y ago
What possible reason would I have to lie about it? You think I'm worried about investigators raiding my VPN service so they can track down and charge a grown-ass man in juvenile court for something that happened 15 years ago? You think I'm worried about my reputation on this throwaway account with a grand total of five previous comments? What's the point in believing that this whole escapade happened at all if you're going to randomly doubt a particular element of it? I was a kid, I was stupid, but I wasn't an asshole. I didn't go peeking and violating people's privacy because that would have been a dick move. Just like tons of people on Hacker News today have access to personal data on SaaS systems we maintain and don't go peeking. Just like tons of people are perfectly capable of picking their neighbor's locks but don't walk into their house for no reason. It's not even tempting. I don't care what's in my neighbor's house, and I don't care what's in random other students' homework documents or email or whatever. The only interesting part was breaking the security.
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waway 7y ago

Except he went in the Admin's house: > I'd just log in with the admin account and run pwdump

lordlic 7y ago
Just to be clear, in case this matters, it wasn't an account belonging to an administrator, it was a default superuser account called (if I remember right) "TECH" in all caps, and didn't have any files or anything in it. It's not like it was a person and I was poking around their private stuff.

jakobegger 7y ago

If someone secretly stole my key and made a copy of it, I hope the court would send them to jail, regardless of why they made the copy.

dunmalg 7y ago
No, it's generally not illegal to copy someones key. It's illegal to STEAL the key, of course, but copy? Not a crime. Some states have laws that prohibit "providing access" to a government facility which can be applied to copying government keys, but your house key? Nope. SOURCE: am locksmith