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This was a really good podcast if you've been following this stuff, and cleared up many of the inquiries posted on HN. Some key points: - The object had been t

This was a really good podcast if you've been following this stuff, and cleared up many of the inquiries posted on HN. Some key points: - The object had been tracked for 2 weeks by radars: SPY-1 (ship) and E-2 (AWACS aircraft) - Pilot made naked-eye visual contact with the tic tac from above, watching it move over the water - There was a cross-shaped wake under it - It jammed their radar when they attempted a lock, which is why they switched to passive tracking (IR) - Visual estimate of the speed puts it at faster than mach 3 (SR-71), with instantaneous acceleration On the show, the pilot pointed out the white "aura" around object in the IR video feed. Since it was set to black-hot, this would mean the nearby air was for some reason colder than the ambient air. He said this was also visible to naked eye as a "bubble." Anyone know of any propulsion that would be associated with a temperature drop to the vehicle surface, along with optical distortion? Edit: There's a good chance the "aura" is an image processing artifact: https://www.metabunk.org/nyt-gimbal-video-of-u-s-navy-jet-encounter-with-unknown-object.t9333/page-12 https://www.metabunk.org/nyt-gimbal-video-of-u-s-navy-jet-en... Also since it was black, its surface was hot, not cold.

not_real_acct 7y ago
> Anyone know of any propulsion that would be associated with a temperature drop to the vehicle surface, along with optical distortion? Check out my Reddit post, I go into greater detail on how these work. In layman's terms, a vaccuum has been created around the skin of the craft. That vaccuum allows the craft to travel at speeds far beyond an SR-71. And, interestingly, allows them to travel underwater! The US Navy patent doesn't describe a temperature differential, but it's possible that the absence of air (or water) around the skin of the craft is causing a temperature differential and the 'halo' that you see in the videos that were confirmed "authentic" by the Pentagon. Check out the Navy's patent here : https://patents.google.com/patent/US20170313446A1/ https://patents.google.com/patent/US20170313446A1/ a quote from it: "An artificially generated high energy/high frequency electromagnetic field (such as the fields an HEEMFG can produce) can fulfill all three conditions simultaneously (especially in an accelerated vibration/rotation mode), when strongly interacting with the local vacuum energy state. These interactions are induced by the coupling of hyper-frequency axial rotation (spin) and hyper-frequency vibration (harmonic oscillations/abrupt pulsations) of electrically charged systems (high energy electromagnetic field generators), placed on the outside of the craft in strategic locations. [0024] In this manner, local vacuum polarization, namely the coherence of vacuum fluctuations within the immediate proximity of the craft's surface (outside vacuum boundary) is achieved, allowing for ‘smooth sailing’ through the negative pressure (repulsive gravity) of the ‘void’ (the void within the vacuum). It may be stated that the void ‘sucks in’ the craft."
mrfusion 7y ago
If it was cold maybe it’s something with superconductors.
clSTophEjUdRanu 7y ago
I'd be very interested to see what sort of jamming was used. What shape were those pulses? Incredibly interesting that whatever it was would know to jam radar.
- starpilot 7y ago
  Yeah. To me this is the biggest indicator that it is of terrestrial origin.
  - yetihehe 7y ago
    Yeah, some aliens can fly through galaxy, use methods of flying we don't know, but can't reason about usage of a radar beam?
    - starpilot 7y ago
      Dumbass. You know what I mean.
  - tanseydavid 7y ago
    If the craft actually creates a 'vacuum' at the quantum level it seems superficially reasonable to think that it might jam conventional radar as an effect of how it 'deals with energy' rather than an intentional jamming system. But I must admit I know very little about these things.

not_real_acct 7y ago

> Anyone know of any propulsion that would be associated with a temperature drop to the vehicle surface, along with optical distortion? Check out my Reddit post, I go into greater detail on how these work. In layman's terms, a vaccuum has been created around the skin of the craft. That vaccuum allows the craft to travel at speeds far beyond an SR-71. And, interestingly, allows them to travel underwater! The US Navy patent doesn't describe a temperature differential, but it's possible that the absence of air (or water) around the skin of the craft is causing a temperature differential and the 'halo' that you see in the videos that were confirmed "authentic" by the Pentagon. Check out the Navy's patent here : https://patents.google.com/patent/US20170313446A1/ https://patents.google.com/patent/US20170313446A1/ a quote from it: "An artificially generated high energy/high frequency electromagnetic field (such as the fields an HEEMFG can produce) can fulfill all three conditions simultaneously (especially in an accelerated vibration/rotation mode), when strongly interacting with the local vacuum energy state. These interactions are induced by the coupling of hyper-frequency axial rotation (spin) and hyper-frequency vibration (harmonic oscillations/abrupt pulsations) of electrically charged systems (high energy electromagnetic field generators), placed on the outside of the craft in strategic locations. [0024] In this manner, local vacuum polarization, namely the coherence of vacuum fluctuations within the immediate proximity of the craft's surface (outside vacuum boundary) is achieved, allowing for ‘smooth sailing’ through the negative pressure (repulsive gravity) of the ‘void’ (the void within the vacuum). It may be stated that the void ‘sucks in’ the craft."

mrfusion 7y ago

If it was cold maybe it’s something with superconductors.

clSTophEjUdRanu 7y ago

I'd be very interested to see what sort of jamming was used. What shape were those pulses? Incredibly interesting that whatever it was would know to jam radar.

starpilot 7y ago
Yeah. To me this is the biggest indicator that it is of terrestrial origin.
- yetihehe 7y ago
  Yeah, some aliens can fly through galaxy, use methods of flying we don't know, but can't reason about usage of a radar beam?
  - starpilot 7y ago
    Dumbass. You know what I mean.
- tanseydavid 7y ago
  If the craft actually creates a 'vacuum' at the quantum level it seems superficially reasonable to think that it might jam conventional radar as an effect of how it 'deals with energy' rather than an intentional jamming system. But I must admit I know very little about these things.