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> After analyzing the user engagement statistics of apps that switched from semi-hidden navigation within hamburger menus to more visible bottom navigation bars

> After analyzing the user engagement statistics of apps that switched from semi-hidden navigation within hamburger menus to more visible bottom navigation bars, and apps that switched from more exposed to semi-hidden navigation, Wroblewski saw a trend. “Navigation is the manifestation of what is possible in an app and when people can’t see what’s possible, they likely won’t know what they can/should do in that app,” he told me in an interview about this idea. Increasing visibility boosts usage. They have this highly data-driven process which optimizes for usage and engagement . The problem is I don't wake up in the morning and go "gee I really want to up my engagement with google maps today". The ideal information retrieval app consists of me retrieving information and closing it. This is antithetical to Google's monetization model, and thus Google Consumer design is not for my benefit. That said each Google Product is like a different company and they do do good work here and there. Specifically the Google Cloud Console has improved tremendously over the years (no doubt due to massive investment). Is it perfect? Hell no. But I prefer it to AWS and Azure tremendously.

reitanqild 7y ago
> They have this highly data-driven process which optimizes for usage and engagement . The problem is I don't wake up in the morning and go "gee I really want to up my engagement with google maps today". Might explain parts of my experience with Android ;-)
manigandham 7y ago
Gmail and the consumer apps seem to be too data-driven to the point where the numbers are a self-fulling prophecy. Of course engagement goes up when confusion and bloat are added and users struggle to get things done. You're right about the GCP console which is well designed (although still slower to load than AWS or Azure). Clearly they have different metrics there.
- AlphaSite 7y ago
  Conversely, I’ve found the GCP console extremely confusing to navigate.
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naasking 7y ago
> They have this highly data-driven process which optimizes for usage and engagement. [...] The ideal information retrieval app consists of me retrieving information and closing it. Seriously, having to hunt for the features I actually need would seem to increase usage and engagement. Is that really the metric employed?

reitanqild 7y ago

> They have this highly data-driven process which optimizes for usage and engagement . The problem is I don't wake up in the morning and go "gee I really want to up my engagement with google maps today". Might explain parts of my experience with Android ;-)

manigandham 7y ago

Gmail and the consumer apps seem to be too data-driven to the point where the numbers are a self-fulling prophecy. Of course engagement goes up when confusion and bloat are added and users struggle to get things done. You're right about the GCP console which is well designed (although still slower to load than AWS or Azure). Clearly they have different metrics there.

AlphaSite 7y ago
Conversely, I’ve found the GCP console extremely confusing to navigate.
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naasking 7y ago

> They have this highly data-driven process which optimizes for usage and engagement. [...] The ideal information retrieval app consists of me retrieving information and closing it. Seriously, having to hunt for the features I actually need would seem to increase usage and engagement. Is that really the metric employed?