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Epic CEO says a lot of stuff he doesn’t mean or live up to.
by philliphaydon 7y ago
Epic CEO says a lot of stuff he doesn’t mean or live up to.
- randylahey 7y agoCan you elaborate?
- haunter 7y ago"Microsoft wants to monopolise games development on PC. We must fight it" by Tim Sweeney in 2016 https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/mar/04/microsoft-monopolise-pc-games-development-epic-games-gears-of-war https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/mar/04/microsoft... 3 years later ends up buying out indie games and puts them behind exclusivity on the Epic Store On Linux gaming "The real enemy of Linux are these trolls who try to overrun social media channels to make claims in bad faith and attempt to harass developers into compliance. They’re scaring lots of good game developers away." https://twitter.com/TimSweeneyEpic/status/1150521599633874949 https://twitter.com/TimSweeneyEpic/status/115052159963387494... About dev cuts: In January "This is the only practicable way to operate a 12% fee store in developing countries." https://twitter.com/TimSweeneyEpic/status/1091025939109199879 https://twitter.com/TimSweeneyEpic/status/109102593910919987... 5 months later: “If Valve commits to a permanent 88% revenue share, we’ll stop making new exclusive deals” https://www.dsogaming.com/news/tim-sweeney-if-valve-commits-to-a-permanent-88-revenue-share-well-stop-all-exclusive-deals/ https://www.dsogaming.com/news/tim-sweeney-if-valve-commits-... etc. Tim Sweeney is an interesting person, like a weathervane
- pvg 7y agoThe Epic store thing would be analogous if Epic made Windows, which they don't - there isn't a contradiction in Sweeney's position here whatever one might think of the merits of the Epic store.
- Reedx 7y agoThis is really disingenuous. You're removing context, cherry picking and inserting your own context to create a false narrative. Why?
- deminature 7y agoIt's popular to hate Sweeney and Epic within the gaming community at the moment.
- cameronbrown 7y agoBecause they've done a very shitty thing.
- nailer 7y agoHave exclusives on their store, or something else?
- bloody-crow 7y agoCould you elaborate? I've seen a lot of arguments along those lines, but none were willing to actually explain what it is exactly they're doing that is wrong.
- belltaco 7y agoFor some reason Valve seems to have a lot of very rabid fans on Reddit, from many many years. Valve gets a free pass for showing annoying ads on every Steam update while being a paid service and also for their forced 30% cut and essentially being a monopoly. All the while barely improving the product for years while making billions from the cash cow. When I saw Epic was jumping into the fray I figured there'd be vicious backlash and handwringing from the community for minor things and wasn't surprised at all.
- AnIdiotOnTheNet 7y agoValve advertises games on a platform that sells games and only does it when you start Steam. 30% is standard. They're a de-facto monopoly because they basically invented the market and no one has managed to do better, they have not engaged in anti-competitive practices and in fact allow people to sell Steam keys for their game on other storefronts without paying Valve at all.
- slavik81 7y agoThose last two quotes sound consistent to me. If Valve could operate on a 12% cut without exclusives, that would prove him was wrong that it's impossible, thus he would change his position if they did so.
- nickthegreek 7y agoEven if that is true, they are at least on the record now with a position and I do feel like that is important. I would hope to see other game companies make these statements as well.
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- nvrspyx 7y agoIf EPIC backtracks on something their CEO said, it wouldn’t be the first time. Tim Sweeney consistently makes a fool of himself and his statements turn out to be completely false pretty often. I wouldn’t take anything he says either seriously or as an actual position of the company.
- ahupp 7y agoCan you give an example?
- philliphaydon 7y agoHe slammed Microsoft store for being basic and incomplete, then released the epic store basic and incomplete. He promised transparency on the epic store then made the trello board private after a month, and decided to not be transparent at all.
- jplayer01 7y agoStatements mean and accomplish nothing. I thought after decades of being fucked over and lied to by corporations, maybe the public would become a bit more suspicious of people like this, but I guess not.
- rifung 7y agoIndeed, actions speak louder than words, but in this specific case, making a public statement is itself a very significant action. After all, it was nothing but public statements that are the center of the controversy.
- duxup 7y agoThere's a real risk for just saying something at this point. Thus lip-service like this is itself more than "just lip service".
- werber 7y agoI'm a total cynic, and do not care about video games or sports, but this does seem like he's taking on a legitimate financial risk in lieu of all the articles bubbling up about the situation