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hutzlibu 7y ago
So you think turkey bombards areas where they still suspect US troops to be around? I understood the news so, that the US forces left. And if there are some remaining, than at know headquarters. But before they were patrolling the area together with SDF. They definitely withdraw from that. CNN source, telling similar, but yes, aparrently also do not say anything about whether all US troops left the area. https://edition.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/syria-turkey-military-offensive-dle-intl/index.html https://edition.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/syria-turkey-mi...
oarsinsync 7y ago
I think that's on the part of the submitter to HN, rather than the publisher. The article itself carries headline: Turkey-Syria border: All the latest updates And contains text: The move came after the United States announced it was withdrawing its troops from the region
- pnako 7y ago
  Is it really related though? It's hard to imagine the US get into a conflict with Turkey, a member of NATO, to protect the Kurds, whose PKK is recognized as a terrorist organization by the US state department. The whole thing makes no sense anyway. The west really need to leave the region and let them sort it out. The League of Nations has been disbanded for 7 decades now...
  - NotSammyHagar 7y ago
    Yep, we don't have to worry about our allies, who we have encouraged to be where they are in Syria, who helped us in iraq and syria, are going to be decimated, causing untold amounts of new refugee crises. Nothing for us to be involved with. We have no part in this happening. But in reality we did. We invaded Iraq. We let chaos reign there, in major part because we disbanded the Iraqi army and did nothing to replace it, remember there were no real plans for the post iraq world. We caused this. Yes, before us there were endless warms between confusing groups. But we made it worse.
    - pnako 7y ago
      So the solution is to persist while making a mistake? >We invaded Iraq. >We let chaos reign there >we made it worse ... so "we must stay"? Pardon me but this makes absolutely no sense.
      - NotSammyHagar 7y ago
        We can't just abandon people that we screwed over. We are better than that.
    - maximente 7y ago
      so what? we should "repent" by having to station troops there eternally? the sunk cost fallacy shows us it's not rational to double down on mistakes. so what is your proposed plan forward?
      - dariusj18 7y ago
        Perhaps have a plan to deal with the repercussions of our decisions. Plus, it is not uncommon for the US to station military all over the world. Here's a list of them https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_military_bases https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_military...
MaysonL 7y ago
Listen to about 2 minutes of this podcast, starting about 55 seconds in: U.S. forces have begun withdrawing. https://overcast.fm/+LHycEbYIU/00:55 https://overcast.fm/+LHycEbYIU/00:55

So you think turkey bombards areas where they still suspect US troops to be around? I understood the news so, that the US forces left. And if there are some remaining, than at know headquarters. But before they were patrolling the area together with SDF. They definitely withdraw from that. CNN source, telling similar, but yes, aparrently also do not say anything about whether all US troops left the area. https://edition.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/syria-turkey-military-offensive-dle-intl/index.html https://edition.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/syria-turkey-mi...

oarsinsync 7y ago

I think that's on the part of the submitter to HN, rather than the publisher. The article itself carries headline: Turkey-Syria border: All the latest updates And contains text: The move came after the United States announced it was withdrawing its troops from the region

pnako 7y ago
Is it really related though? It's hard to imagine the US get into a conflict with Turkey, a member of NATO, to protect the Kurds, whose PKK is recognized as a terrorist organization by the US state department. The whole thing makes no sense anyway. The west really need to leave the region and let them sort it out. The League of Nations has been disbanded for 7 decades now...
- NotSammyHagar 7y ago
  Yep, we don't have to worry about our allies, who we have encouraged to be where they are in Syria, who helped us in iraq and syria, are going to be decimated, causing untold amounts of new refugee crises. Nothing for us to be involved with. We have no part in this happening. But in reality we did. We invaded Iraq. We let chaos reign there, in major part because we disbanded the Iraqi army and did nothing to replace it, remember there were no real plans for the post iraq world. We caused this. Yes, before us there were endless warms between confusing groups. But we made it worse.
  - pnako 7y ago
    So the solution is to persist while making a mistake? >We invaded Iraq. >We let chaos reign there >we made it worse ... so "we must stay"? Pardon me but this makes absolutely no sense.
    - NotSammyHagar 7y ago
      We can't just abandon people that we screwed over. We are better than that.
  - maximente 7y ago
    so what? we should "repent" by having to station troops there eternally? the sunk cost fallacy shows us it's not rational to double down on mistakes. so what is your proposed plan forward?
    - dariusj18 7y ago
      Perhaps have a plan to deal with the repercussions of our decisions. Plus, it is not uncommon for the US to station military all over the world. Here's a list of them https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_military_bases https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_military...

MaysonL 7y ago

Listen to about 2 minutes of this podcast, starting about 55 seconds in: U.S. forces have begun withdrawing. https://overcast.fm/+LHycEbYIU/00:55 https://overcast.fm/+LHycEbYIU/00:55