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Wifi: The advice from five years ago was to select/buy the Intel wifi card. Those are the only ones I've used, and they've all Just Worked. Intel cards are the

by ohazi 7y ago

Wifi: The advice from five years ago was to select/buy the Intel wifi card. Those are the only ones I've used, and they've all Just Worked. Intel cards are the only option if you're buying a Thinkpad. Sleep and hibernate: Works on every Lenovo I've used. Battery: My most recent laptop gets around 8-9 hours with a new battery on a normal workload, and when it drops to 3 hours, I buy a new battery.

haspok 7y ago
On newer kernels (4.8+) and latest Ubuntu my Thinkpad L390 freezes consistently when I try to suspend. It's gotten a bit better with 5.0.0.31, now suspend works 50% of the cases when I select it manually from the menu, and the laptop is connected to power. Otherwise, 90% freeze. Even my old trusty XPS 13 started not to go to sleep 1 out of 10 times. There must have been a serious regression in the kernel, but no one seems to care. For this reason alone, I started to seriously consider giving up Linux on the desktop.
- zozbot234 7y ago
  > There must have been a serious regression in the kernel, but no one seems to care If the feature used to work reliably in older kernels, you could try and bisect the issue. There's a bit of work involved, but it's quite doable.
- neuronic 7y ago
  No Linux distro has ever just worked with Sleep and/or WiFi. My last Linux machine (Ubuntu) would never be able to connect to WiFi after sleep mode. Believe me, I tried everything you can think of and find in various StackExchange posts. When a GRUB update destroyed my dual-boot setup and made my system completely unrecoverable, I ditched Linux and never looked back. Using OpenOffice or LibreOffice was also more akin to self-punishment usually seen in medieval monks. As a student, all these problems were okay, but nowadays I don't have the time to constantly fight against my own OS to finally figure out that I have to adjust my fan speed rotation coefficient to make the third party WiFi driver work.
majewsky 7y ago
> Intel cards are the only option if you're buying a Thinkpad. Not true. My Thinkpad E485 from late 2018 has either a Broadcom or a Qualcomm chip, but definitely not Intel. It works like a charm though. The bigger issue is the Realtek Ethernet NIC which has an annoying driver bug where it does not detect the carrier except when the cable is already inserted at boot time. Never buy Realtek if you can avoid it.
hakfoo 7y ago
Tell my E585 and its craptacular Realtek card that. I ordered an Intel card but it's been in weird foreign shipper hell for weeks.

by ohazi 7y ago

haspok 7y ago

On newer kernels (4.8+) and latest Ubuntu my Thinkpad L390 freezes consistently when I try to suspend. It's gotten a bit better with 5.0.0.31, now suspend works 50% of the cases when I select it manually from the menu, and the laptop is connected to power. Otherwise, 90% freeze. Even my old trusty XPS 13 started not to go to sleep 1 out of 10 times. There must have been a serious regression in the kernel, but no one seems to care. For this reason alone, I started to seriously consider giving up Linux on the desktop.

zozbot234 7y ago
> There must have been a serious regression in the kernel, but no one seems to care If the feature used to work reliably in older kernels, you could try and bisect the issue. There's a bit of work involved, but it's quite doable.
neuronic 7y ago
No Linux distro has ever just worked with Sleep and/or WiFi. My last Linux machine (Ubuntu) would never be able to connect to WiFi after sleep mode. Believe me, I tried everything you can think of and find in various StackExchange posts. When a GRUB update destroyed my dual-boot setup and made my system completely unrecoverable, I ditched Linux and never looked back. Using OpenOffice or LibreOffice was also more akin to self-punishment usually seen in medieval monks. As a student, all these problems were okay, but nowadays I don't have the time to constantly fight against my own OS to finally figure out that I have to adjust my fan speed rotation coefficient to make the third party WiFi driver work.

majewsky 7y ago

> Intel cards are the only option if you're buying a Thinkpad. Not true. My Thinkpad E485 from late 2018 has either a Broadcom or a Qualcomm chip, but definitely not Intel. It works like a charm though. The bigger issue is the Realtek Ethernet NIC which has an annoying driver bug where it does not detect the carrier except when the cable is already inserted at boot time. Never buy Realtek if you can avoid it.

hakfoo 7y ago

Tell my E585 and its craptacular Realtek card that. I ordered an Intel card but it's been in weird foreign shipper hell for weeks.