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> A presidential candidates stance on China and its abuse of human rights will be a key issue for me in 2020. Your presidential candidate need to fix human rig

by est 7y ago

> A presidential candidates stance on China and its abuse of human rights will be a key issue for me in 2020. Your presidential candidate need to fix human rights issues in Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan. Democracy installed by the US government gotta have a warranty and customer service. If the outcome of US installed human rights means tens of thousands of refugees and jihad fighters how can your model of human rights even work in a 1.4B population China?

shard972 7y ago
Why do they need to do any of that?
diveanon 7y ago
You can't have it both ways, we gave Iraq and Afghanistan the opportunity to elect a representative government, it is not our place to complain about the representatives they elected. How many revolutions and dictatorships did the French have to go through until they settled on a system that works for them?
- est 7y ago
  I guess it's the user's fault for not understanding the product.
- Mediterraneo10 7y ago
  > we gave Iraq and Afghanistan the opportunity to elect a representative government, it is not our place to complain about the representatives they elected. The USA insisted on representative government within those countries’ existing borders. So much of the strife in those countries is ethnic-based. If regions were given options for secession, then some of the new territorial formations that resulted may well have become more politically stable. Just look at how much better off Iraqi Kurdistan is, which is as close as it can get to independence, than the rest of Iraq.
- tjomk 7y ago
  So now the expectation is for them to suffer 100-500 years until they finally figure out how to do democracy? I think I'd rather live in a stable dictatorship that through the hell of never-ending war
Synaesthesia 7y ago
The US still conducts operations in Afghanistan and Iraq without informing their governments, that's military occupation, not "democracy"

by est 7y ago

shard972 7y ago

Why do they need to do any of that?

diveanon 7y ago

You can't have it both ways, we gave Iraq and Afghanistan the opportunity to elect a representative government, it is not our place to complain about the representatives they elected. How many revolutions and dictatorships did the French have to go through until they settled on a system that works for them?

est 7y ago
I guess it's the user's fault for not understanding the product.
Mediterraneo10 7y ago
> we gave Iraq and Afghanistan the opportunity to elect a representative government, it is not our place to complain about the representatives they elected. The USA insisted on representative government within those countries’ existing borders. So much of the strife in those countries is ethnic-based. If regions were given options for secession, then some of the new territorial formations that resulted may well have become more politically stable. Just look at how much better off Iraqi Kurdistan is, which is as close as it can get to independence, than the rest of Iraq.
tjomk 7y ago
So now the expectation is for them to suffer 100-500 years until they finally figure out how to do democracy? I think I'd rather live in a stable dictatorship that through the hell of never-ending war

Synaesthesia 7y ago

The US still conducts operations in Afghanistan and Iraq without informing their governments, that's military occupation, not "democracy"