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Literally this was me this morning after I upgraded last night and went to bed. I get Apple wants to make people feel their in control of their privacy, but li

Literally this was me this morning after I upgraded last night and went to bed. I get Apple wants to make people feel their in control of their privacy, but literally every app I use for work prompts me for every permission imaginable. “Oh the command you’re running in Terminal, it wants permissions to your Downloads folder, is that ok?” ::click yes:: “Guess what? That same command you’re running in Terminal now wants to access you Library folder. Is That cool?” ::click yes:: “hey it’s me again, that Terminal command. It now wants to access your Documents folder. Is that cool?” I’m a Sys admin prepping all the hoops to make my clients avoid this fiasco. It’s somewhat documented what we should expect, but it’s a lot of prep work and real world testing we need to go through to ensure our users don’t ask, “why am I always being prompted with these pop up questions?” Also, TV, Podcasts, and FindMy are being disabled in Catalina. Disabling FindMy and logging everyone out of iCloud turns off the risk of the new Tile like features Apple is about to release on the world. I don’t want my users turning their work machines turn into Bluetooth beacons for Apple.

andrekandre 7y ago
> I get Apple wants to make people feel their in control of their privacy, but literally every app I use for work prompts me for every permission imaginable. i would guess this has the side-effect of making devs think hard about what really needs access or not, and tightening up where data is stored (say in the app container, not copying files willy nilly over the hd, using entitlements etc) > Oh the command you’re running in Terminal, it wants permissions to your Downloads folder, is that ok?” ::click yes:: “Guess what? That same command you’re running in Terminal now wants to access you Library folder. Is That cool?” ::click yes:: “hey it’s me again, that Terminal command. It now wants to access your Documents folder. Is that cool?” yes, that is annoying, but i’m pretty sure that only happens the first time it tries to access those folders... is that correct? personally, i think that’s good that it checks those, because some scripts can do damage to your data (say. by accident), and you might want to know if it’s trying to say, read your keychain or not
- pfranz 7y ago
  > yes, that is annoying, but i’m pretty sure that only happens the first time it tries to access those folders... is that correct? I haven't updated to Catalina, but some recent macOS (Mojave?) I didn't get those prompts in Terminal until I ran `find .` So I think you're right.
- olliej 7y ago
  It only happens on the first time, and only on access to a protected resource. This applies to builtin apps and 3rd party apps. For Cocoa apps this mostly shouldn't happen ("power boxes" that do file open/close dialogs, etc)
nyuszika7h 7y ago
> I don’t want my users turning their work machines turn into Bluetooth beacons for Apple. Is it really that bad? I get that you always have to consider privacy concerns, but Apple has been pretty good at user privacy compared to, say, Google. And there’s already been a real world case of Apple’s new Bluetooth tracking helping someone find their phone before the stable version of iOS 13 was even released.

andrekandre 7y ago

> I get Apple wants to make people feel their in control of their privacy, but literally every app I use for work prompts me for every permission imaginable. i would guess this has the side-effect of making devs think hard about what really needs access or not, and tightening up where data is stored (say in the app container, not copying files willy nilly over the hd, using entitlements etc) > Oh the command you’re running in Terminal, it wants permissions to your Downloads folder, is that ok?” ::click yes:: “Guess what? That same command you’re running in Terminal now wants to access you Library folder. Is That cool?” ::click yes:: “hey it’s me again, that Terminal command. It now wants to access your Documents folder. Is that cool?” yes, that is annoying, but i’m pretty sure that only happens the first time it tries to access those folders... is that correct? personally, i think that’s good that it checks those, because some scripts can do damage to your data (say. by accident), and you might want to know if it’s trying to say, read your keychain or not

pfranz 7y ago
> yes, that is annoying, but i’m pretty sure that only happens the first time it tries to access those folders... is that correct? I haven't updated to Catalina, but some recent macOS (Mojave?) I didn't get those prompts in Terminal until I ran `find .` So I think you're right.
olliej 7y ago
It only happens on the first time, and only on access to a protected resource. This applies to builtin apps and 3rd party apps. For Cocoa apps this mostly shouldn't happen ("power boxes" that do file open/close dialogs, etc)

nyuszika7h 7y ago

> I don’t want my users turning their work machines turn into Bluetooth beacons for Apple. Is it really that bad? I get that you always have to consider privacy concerns, but Apple has been pretty good at user privacy compared to, say, Google. And there’s already been a real world case of Apple’s new Bluetooth tracking helping someone find their phone before the stable version of iOS 13 was even released.