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NBA? How about the US government? I know in another post I made the point that we could not just call out Blizzard or other game companies but instead have to

NBA? How about the US government? I know in another post I made the point that we could not just call out Blizzard or other game companies but instead have to call out ALL companies that do business in China and worse crack down on their own and related who dare say something China does not approve of. However the real party that has to be taken to task is our own governments. In the US that means both Congress and the Administration. That means all candidates for President need to state their stance NOW. How it plays out in the EU I have no idea, news of any of their businesses or governments bending to China's will are pretty much absent from US news edit:recently we have had major issues with privacy concerns, losing freedom of speech is a form of that as well.

ChuckNorris89 7y ago
>How it plays out in the EU I have no idea, news of any of their businesses or governments bending to China's will are pretty much absent from US news EU governments and companies bend over for China way easier than in the US as there's a huge lack on unity in the EU where it's every country for itself like when China protested on Norway's leaders not meeting the Dalai Lama and Norway complied.[1] [1]https://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/08/world/europe/norways-leaders-snub-dalai-lama-in-deference-to-china.html https://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/08/world/europe/norways-lead...
- baq 7y ago
  It’d be much worse if what you say was completely true, though certainly there are idiot countries trying to fool everyone including themselves that doing business with dictators is good for them.
- tasubotadas 7y ago
  Not quite true. * Vilnius takes down ads after China promotes unsanctioned commemoration – 'it's a geopolitical provocation' [1] * Lithuania hands note to China over incident during Hong Kong support rally in Vilnius [2] [1] https://www.lrt.lt/naujienos/news-in-english/19/1100141/vilnius-takes-down-ads-after-china-promotes-unsanctioned-commemoration-it-s-a-geopolitical-provocation-says-mp https://www.lrt.lt/naujienos/news-in-english/19/1100141/viln... [2] https://www.lrt.lt/naujienos/news-in-english/19/1093636/lithuania-hands-note-to-china-over-incident-during-hong-kong-support-rally-in-vilnius https://www.lrt.lt/naujienos/news-in-english/19/1093636/lith... Edit: Included titles
- bduerst 7y ago
  How so?
ALittleLight 7y ago
I think it's the opposite if you actually want to make a difference. Pressure works best when it's concentrated. Protesting every, or most, or many companies will be extremely difficult and likely make no difference. Targeting a single egregious offender and punishing them until they change will motivate other companies not to be the nail sticking out lest they face the hammer of public opinion. Sadly, I think there's not enough public will to punish entities like the NBA or Blizzard for their servile behavior.
r00fus 7y ago
> How about the US government? https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/oct/04/trump-china-hong-kong-protests-xi-jinping-trade-talks https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/oct/04/trump-china-ho... Clearly our chief executive is happy to silence efforts. All for support re-electing him. Why China would agree I don't know (the Falun Gong who hates the current Chinese government was, a few months ago the top-dollar supporter of the Trump campaign, not to mention the trade war).
- navigatesol 7y ago
  >Clearly our chief executive is happy to silence efforts. Ok, so maybe Trump is remaining silent on the Hong Kong protests, but let's not pretend that he hasn't put the screws to China or talked often about their corrupt mercantile practices. Trump has been an anti-China force.
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ChuckNorris89 7y ago

>How it plays out in the EU I have no idea, news of any of their businesses or governments bending to China's will are pretty much absent from US news EU governments and companies bend over for China way easier than in the US as there's a huge lack on unity in the EU where it's every country for itself like when China protested on Norway's leaders not meeting the Dalai Lama and Norway complied.[1] [1]https://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/08/world/europe/norways-leaders-snub-dalai-lama-in-deference-to-china.html https://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/08/world/europe/norways-lead...

baq 7y ago
It’d be much worse if what you say was completely true, though certainly there are idiot countries trying to fool everyone including themselves that doing business with dictators is good for them.
tasubotadas 7y ago
Not quite true. * Vilnius takes down ads after China promotes unsanctioned commemoration – 'it's a geopolitical provocation' [1] * Lithuania hands note to China over incident during Hong Kong support rally in Vilnius [2] [1] https://www.lrt.lt/naujienos/news-in-english/19/1100141/vilnius-takes-down-ads-after-china-promotes-unsanctioned-commemoration-it-s-a-geopolitical-provocation-says-mp https://www.lrt.lt/naujienos/news-in-english/19/1100141/viln... [2] https://www.lrt.lt/naujienos/news-in-english/19/1093636/lithuania-hands-note-to-china-over-incident-during-hong-kong-support-rally-in-vilnius https://www.lrt.lt/naujienos/news-in-english/19/1093636/lith... Edit: Included titles
bduerst 7y ago
How so?

ALittleLight 7y ago

I think it's the opposite if you actually want to make a difference. Pressure works best when it's concentrated. Protesting every, or most, or many companies will be extremely difficult and likely make no difference. Targeting a single egregious offender and punishing them until they change will motivate other companies not to be the nail sticking out lest they face the hammer of public opinion. Sadly, I think there's not enough public will to punish entities like the NBA or Blizzard for their servile behavior.

r00fus 7y ago

> How about the US government? https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/oct/04/trump-china-hong-kong-protests-xi-jinping-trade-talks https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/oct/04/trump-china-ho... Clearly our chief executive is happy to silence efforts. All for support re-electing him. Why China would agree I don't know (the Falun Gong who hates the current Chinese government was, a few months ago the top-dollar supporter of the Trump campaign, not to mention the trade war).

navigatesol 7y ago
>Clearly our chief executive is happy to silence efforts. Ok, so maybe Trump is remaining silent on the Hong Kong protests, but let's not pretend that he hasn't put the screws to China or talked often about their corrupt mercantile practices. Trump has been an anti-China force.

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