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We should all boycott Blizzard and the NBA.

by joelx 7y ago

ergothus 7y ago
After bnetd I boycotted Blizzard for years. The only tangible result was that I missed out on Warcraft 3. After the 1-click patent, I boycotted Amazon for years. They didn't appear to have missed my money. I'm all for collective action, but I'm not sure if boycotts are reliable. I've seen companies respond to social pressures, but like net neutrality, when they can make money they just try again more subtilely, and that presumes the original pressure was successful. I'm not saying we SHOULDN'T boycott Blizzard and the NBA...but do we have other options as well? Governmental action to be backing, companies with clear "good" positions we should promote, etc? I don't have ideas, I just have a pile of bitterness and hopelessness, and issues like Hong Kong feel a lot more important than 1 click.
- closetohome 7y ago
  I feel like there are different levels here. The Bnetd thing was unfortunate, but still an exceptionally first-world problem. People being beaten to death in the streets may warrant a bit wider reaction.
  - echelon 7y ago
    The parent poster isn't claiming that certain issues are more or less pressing than others. Rather, we, as ordinary citizens, have zero control. Individual acts of protest are not working and do not change these companies' behaviors.
    - closetohome 7y ago
      And my point was that this has a better chance of success because the cause is more widely understandable and sympathetic than a lawsuit over IP.
- philipov 7y ago
  Boycotts only work when a reasonable number of people can make an impact on the bottom line of a corporation. Corporations have grown so large that the size of the group necessary to make that kind of impact is as large as a large corporation. Viral social media witch hunts can have that kind of impact, so if you want to organize a boycott, you better hire a PR company.
- praptak 7y ago
  Boycotting is the ethical thing to do but it almost never works. What works? I guess the same things that worked for women and blacks - enough people willing to stick their necks out and organise politically.
- bsder 7y ago
  > I'm all for collective action, but I'm not sure if boycotts are reliable. Boycott the Hearthstone streamers. Without the pros to tell the punters what the meta is and what cards to buy, the game dies out. While Blizzard won't notice a couple people leaving, streamers will notice even a couple of people telling them they are leaving their channel.

We should all boycott Blizzard and the NBA.

by joelx 7y ago

We should all boycott Blizzard and the NBA.

After bnetd I boycotted Blizzard for years. The only tangible result was that I missed out on Warcraft 3. After the 1-click patent, I boycotted Amazon for years. They didn't appear to have missed my money. I'm all for collective action, but I'm not sure if boycotts are reliable. I've seen companies respond to social pressures, but like net neutrality, when they can make money they just try again more subtilely, and that presumes the original pressure was successful. I'm not saying we SHOULDN'T boycott Blizzard and the NBA...but do we have other options as well? Governmental action to be backing, companies with clear "good" positions we should promote, etc? I don't have ideas, I just have a pile of bitterness and hopelessness, and issues like Hong Kong feel a lot more important than 1 click.

closetohome 7y ago
I feel like there are different levels here. The Bnetd thing was unfortunate, but still an exceptionally first-world problem. People being beaten to death in the streets may warrant a bit wider reaction.
- echelon 7y ago
  The parent poster isn't claiming that certain issues are more or less pressing than others. Rather, we, as ordinary citizens, have zero control. Individual acts of protest are not working and do not change these companies' behaviors.
  - closetohome 7y ago
    And my point was that this has a better chance of success because the cause is more widely understandable and sympathetic than a lawsuit over IP.
philipov 7y ago
Boycotts only work when a reasonable number of people can make an impact on the bottom line of a corporation. Corporations have grown so large that the size of the group necessary to make that kind of impact is as large as a large corporation. Viral social media witch hunts can have that kind of impact, so if you want to organize a boycott, you better hire a PR company.
praptak 7y ago
Boycotting is the ethical thing to do but it almost never works. What works? I guess the same things that worked for women and blacks - enough people willing to stick their necks out and organise politically.
bsder 7y ago
> I'm all for collective action, but I'm not sure if boycotts are reliable. Boycott the Hearthstone streamers. Without the pros to tell the punters what the meta is and what cards to buy, the game dies out. While Blizzard won't notice a couple people leaving, streamers will notice even a couple of people telling them they are leaving their channel.