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Ehh... But how old is enforcement of Chinese political censorship in the West?
by bjornsing 7y ago
Ehh... But how old is enforcement of Chinese political censorship in the West?
- monocasa 7y agoBlizzard is partially owned by a Chinese company. They're using money, not cancel culture.
- jessaustin 7y agoFree speech was once valued in USA. In that context this wouldn't have happened. Now that freedom of speech is no longer valued, this sort of thing can happen. Now I state for the record that I know these are the censorious actions of a private firm, not those of the USA federal government. It is of course possible to value speech outside a strict 1A framework. In previous decades, many Americans did so value free speech.
- monocasa 7y agoNo it wasn't. The same political sphere that's now complaining about how SJWs are ruining free speech had no problems black balling a large chunk of hollywood in the 50s for their private political speech.
- quotemstr 7y agoThe people who regard 1950s Hollywood as an example of malfeasance are the same people who are currently doing the exact same thing to the text industry with the polarity reversed. They have no moral standing whatsoever to complain. If this weren't my industry, the hypocrisy would be hilarious. As long as you get people fired from their jobs for having the wrong opinions about social issues in the US, you have no right to demand that companies not censor what the Chinese censors dislike. Now do you realize the value of free speech as a general principle?
- monocasa 7y agoOr... there's a difference between the government enforcing deplatforming, and people voting with their wallets and companies reading the political guide winds turning. Unless you're saying that you have an issue with free association as well.
- quotemstr 7y agoBlizzard is exercising its rights as a private company.
- monocasa 7y agoBlizzard is owned partially by Tencent, which is owned by the Chinese government.
- quotemstr 7y agoTencent owns 12% of Blizzard, and Tencent is an actual company, not a Chinese government department. Sure, the Chinese government might influence Tencent, but to say that Blizzard's action here is government censorship is so ridiculous that it amounts to a blatant lie. Is your argument so weak that you have to just lie?
- monocasa 7y ago12% is more than enough to control a publicly traded company, because speculative shareholders don't typically vote. The Chinese view of ownership is that the CCP ultimately owns everything. For instance there are no land deeds in China, just rental agreements from the party. Tencent, as one of the largest telecommunications companies in China is very much an adjunct of the CCP. Don't accuse someone of lying just because you don't understand the underlying facts.
- danso 7y agoWhich era are you referring to? I remember Sinead O'Connor having her career eviscerated after she protested child abuse in the Catholic Church on SNL, so it couldn't be the 1990s. I'm assuming it's not the 2000s (Dixie Chicks, among others). So the 80s? The 70s?