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That's completely true, except for the fact that none of it is true. Go to China and openly criticize the government, hand out fliers about Tienanmen square wi

That's completely true, except for the fact that none of it is true. Go to China and openly criticize the government, hand out fliers about Tienanmen square with Winnie the Pooh on it and see what happens. God forbid you actually are a citizen of China, because as a foreigner you will be put in a detention center until deported. As a citizen you will disappear.

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atroche 7y ago
I think GP was responding to the way you said “codified into the constitution” as if that were the main differentiating factor (whereas it’s clearly not, because China also codified freedom of speech).
esailija 7y ago
First you lie about constitution then you make even more claims. Before making more claims answer why did you lie in the first place? Is it because you have no idea what you are talking about and are just parroting what you have heard?
- diveanon 7y ago
  I've been held in a Chinese detention center for 6 days before, when was the last time you were locked away without access to due process just for expressing an opinion? I lived in China for several years, and I will never go back. I made a choice to move there to advance my career thinking I could tolerate living in a totalitarian state, and now that I have experienced it I will forever oppose it.
  - esailija 7y ago
    You were just proven to be a liar. Why does this site side with proven liars?
    - diveanon 7y ago
      Are you actually trying to claim that China is a free country with freedom of speech? There is a big difference between saying you are a free country and actually being one. In totalitarian regimes the government is not bound to the constitution, that is why they are called totalitarian. If you truly believe that China is free, which I doubt, I highly encourage you to educate yourself on the half century of fear and murder that they have systematically used to oppress all dissension. It is not my responsibility to educate you, but you are arguing against history. History may be malleable in China, but outside of the Great Wall we know what they have done and it is my dream that one day China is held accountable for the atrocities it has committed in the name of "peace and prosperity".
      - esailija 7y ago
        You lied about easily verifiable fact like what is stated in constitution of a country available for everyone to read. It is telling that you are constantly dodging that issue. If you make such a lie and don't acknowledge it you have no business making even more claims until the issue is addressed.
        htfu 7y ago
        Being off on semantics isn't really the same as lying, in much the same way as nit-picking isn't widely considered a virtue.
Consultant32452 7y ago
>As a citizen... Think of all the lives your organs will save!
- diveanon 7y ago
  This isn't a joke man, people are dying.
  - Consultant32452 7y ago
    Public mockery of China is a small but important part in fighting against what is happening. Pride is important to them, it's why they banned Winnie the Pooh just because some people said he kinda looked like the party's general secretary.

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atroche 7y ago

I think GP was responding to the way you said “codified into the constitution” as if that were the main differentiating factor (whereas it’s clearly not, because China also codified freedom of speech).

esailija 7y ago

First you lie about constitution then you make even more claims. Before making more claims answer why did you lie in the first place? Is it because you have no idea what you are talking about and are just parroting what you have heard?

diveanon 7y ago
I've been held in a Chinese detention center for 6 days before, when was the last time you were locked away without access to due process just for expressing an opinion? I lived in China for several years, and I will never go back. I made a choice to move there to advance my career thinking I could tolerate living in a totalitarian state, and now that I have experienced it I will forever oppose it.
- esailija 7y ago
  You were just proven to be a liar. Why does this site side with proven liars?
  - diveanon 7y ago
    Are you actually trying to claim that China is a free country with freedom of speech? There is a big difference between saying you are a free country and actually being one. In totalitarian regimes the government is not bound to the constitution, that is why they are called totalitarian. If you truly believe that China is free, which I doubt, I highly encourage you to educate yourself on the half century of fear and murder that they have systematically used to oppress all dissension. It is not my responsibility to educate you, but you are arguing against history. History may be malleable in China, but outside of the Great Wall we know what they have done and it is my dream that one day China is held accountable for the atrocities it has committed in the name of "peace and prosperity".
    - esailija 7y ago
      You lied about easily verifiable fact like what is stated in constitution of a country available for everyone to read. It is telling that you are constantly dodging that issue. If you make such a lie and don't acknowledge it you have no business making even more claims until the issue is addressed.
      - htfu 7y ago
        Being off on semantics isn't really the same as lying, in much the same way as nit-picking isn't widely considered a virtue.

Consultant32452 7y ago

>As a citizen... Think of all the lives your organs will save!

diveanon 7y ago
This isn't a joke man, people are dying.
- Consultant32452 7y ago
  Public mockery of China is a small but important part in fighting against what is happening. Pride is important to them, it's why they banned Winnie the Pooh just because some people said he kinda looked like the party's general secretary.