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No, your personal website does not count. Yes, it does if you sell t-shirts. No, a forum is insufficient, it needs to actually be a business. Yes, aria labels a

No, your personal website does not count. Yes, it does if you sell t-shirts. No, a forum is insufficient, it needs to actually be a business. Yes, aria labels are compelled speech, but they're upheld[1]. There would be an exemption if the burden was "undue", but you're not going to meet that by claiming it's a few extra hours of work. If accessibility standards change, you are compelled to upgrade your site if you're under the ADA. And yes, courts really do want to get into the issue of which businesses need to comply and which don't, regardless of whether they exist physically or as a website. [1] https://www.ada.gov/briefs/uc_berkley_lof.pdf https://www.ada.gov/briefs/uc_berkley_lof.pdf

gtfratteus 7y ago
Nice opinions you got there, but unless you become dictator of the US, they are completely worthless and irrelevant to this conversation.
Mirioron 7y ago
>No, a forum is insufficient, it needs to actually be a business. But this means that almost every forum does count.
- oblio 7y ago
  Most community forums are not businesses. And if you're a business, just use forum software that has accessibility in mind.
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ccleve 7y ago
Thanks for the link. It says: "The ADA’s nondiscrimination mandate states that no qualified individual with a disability shall, by reason of such disability, be excluded from participation in or be denied the benefits of services, programs, or activities of a public entity, or be subjected to discrimination by a public entity." So, it's based on "services", not a place of public accommodation, and it (the letter) applies to public entities only. There's another question that this situation raises: is a website a "place", a "service", or a "product"? If it's a place, then place-of-public-accommodation rules might apply. If it's a service, then it's likely to be treated like other services. For example, the ADA says that a barbershop must be accessible, but it doesn't say that the barber must cut the hair of a disabled person. (That would come under anti-discrimination statutes, not the ADA. I think. Not sure about this). If it's a product, then there are probably no rules at all. There's no law that say that your faucet must be accessible to a person who can't turn small knobs, or that your book must have large-enough type to be read by the elderly. Again, as I say, sorting all this out is going to be harder than you think.

gtfratteus 7y ago

Nice opinions you got there, but unless you become dictator of the US, they are completely worthless and irrelevant to this conversation.

Mirioron 7y ago

>No, a forum is insufficient, it needs to actually be a business. But this means that almost every forum does count.

oblio 7y ago
Most community forums are not businesses. And if you're a business, just use forum software that has accessibility in mind.

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ccleve 7y ago

Thanks for the link. It says: "The ADA’s nondiscrimination mandate states that no qualified individual with a disability shall, by reason of such disability, be excluded from participation in or be denied the benefits of services, programs, or activities of a public entity, or be subjected to discrimination by a public entity." So, it's based on "services", not a place of public accommodation, and it (the letter) applies to public entities only. There's another question that this situation raises: is a website a "place", a "service", or a "product"? If it's a place, then place-of-public-accommodation rules might apply. If it's a service, then it's likely to be treated like other services. For example, the ADA says that a barbershop must be accessible, but it doesn't say that the barber must cut the hair of a disabled person. (That would come under anti-discrimination statutes, not the ADA. I think. Not sure about this). If it's a product, then there are probably no rules at all. There's no law that say that your faucet must be accessible to a person who can't turn small knobs, or that your book must have large-enough type to be read by the elderly. Again, as I say, sorting all this out is going to be harder than you think.