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Yeah, I got sick of Adobe's subscription model. Every release it seems like PS gets slower and slower without adding any features of value to me. I hate that

Yeah, I got sick of Adobe's subscription model. Every release it seems like PS gets slower and slower without adding any features of value to me. I hate that if I want to have a certain combination of 2 or 3 apps I have to pay for basically everything which includes 80% of stuff I don't need. Paying $600/yr for something I only occasionally use a few times a month is a joke. I've since switched to Affinity.

arthurcolle 7y ago
How do you like the competitor offering so far?
- bcheung 7y ago
  It's pretty impressive. I wish there was scripting support though.
- potta_coffee 7y ago
  Not PS, but I use Affinity Designer now rather than Illustrator, and it is awesome. I love it.
  - acqq 7y ago
    But how to open old projects once one switches to non-Adobe applications?
    - indymike 7y ago
      Affinity does a pretty good job with .ai .ps and other Adobe formats.
    - open-source-ux 7y ago
      Designer will import Illustrator files (.ai) and PDF files. It can also export to PSD and PDF (but not to .ai). Photo imports (and exports) to PSD file format. Some Photoshop features that aren't available in Photo (e.g. smart objects) won't be editable in the same way when opening a PSD in Photo, but you'll still be able to open the PSD file. If you have a lot of Illustrator and Photoshop files, best to try them out in the Affinity apps to see if you're happy with the import feature.
- pier25 7y ago
  I'm not parent but I'm still looking for a vector graphics replacement for Illustrator. Sketch, Designer, etc, are all pretty crippled when it comes to working with groups instead of layers. Many people have asked for group isolation mode in Designer for years, but it's not really a priority for Serif. https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/topic/1640-ad-isolation-mode/ https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/topic/1640-ad-is... I tried developing a script for Sketch but the SDK doesn't provide the needed API to implement it properly and quite frankly Sketch is super slow once you work on complex projects. The only software I've found that does groups well is a little software called Amadine, but it's still not very mature. The team that develops PixelMator promised a vectors graphics software but are too busy with PixelMator Pro. I haven't used Corel Draw in almost 20 years but now that they have a mac verson I will give it a try. Affinity Photo is a great replacement for Photoshop though.
  - bcheung 7y ago
    I've had a horrible time with finding good vector software for my needs, especially since my requirements tend towards needing it to create physical assets in the real world (laser cutting) or the basis for game assets. There isn't any good constraint based / procedural vector software. Best I've able to find for my needs is Fusion 360 but it's really for 3D not for 2D. I want things to reflow automatically based on parameterized constraints and nothing does that except for Fusion 360 and/or OpenSCAD but those are both horrible for 2D vector. I've even resorted to use React and SVG to dynamically generate vectored laser cut designs. https://github.com/brennancheung/lasercut-react-svg/blob/master/src/HoleGuide.js https://github.com/brennancheung/lasercut-react-svg/blob/mas... If anyone has any recommendations I'd love to hear them.
    - pier25 7y ago
      > I want things to reflow automatically based on parameterized constraints Can you expand on that? You mean like having a UI solver for drawing gears?
      - bcheung 7y ago
hk__2 7y ago
Tell me about it. I use only Lightroom for my personal needs, but I need to pay for PS as well even if I’ve never used it. I contacted their support a couple time about that and the chat person always become silent at some point.
sovnade 7y ago
Photoshop/Lightroom are $100/yr combined (sometimes less if you can get a deal on the subscription card). At that price, you're still looking at significantly less than if you used to upgrade your old software every 5 years.
- secabeen 7y ago
  If you wanted both Photoshop and Lightroom, yes. For those of us that just used Lightroom, and could use GIMP for any light editing, it's a significant increase. I'm still using my perpetually licensed copy of Lightroom 6, and I see no reason to upgrade any time soon. (I'll probably use the Adobe DNG converter as a free translator if I ever get a new body)
  - deleted 7y ago
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  - tornato7 7y ago
    I've used the website photopea as an alternative to Photoshop, I find it much more similar and convenient than GIMP.
  - account42 7y ago
    Have you tried Darktable?
  - acquacow 7y ago
    The new Dehaze and Texture sliders, plus improved highlight recovery are highly worth it. Also, the latest version is finally optimized and about 2-3x faster than all prior versions.
    - secabeen 7y ago
      It's going to take more than some new features to make $100/yr worth it over $0/yr, but I see your point. I don't shoot as much as I used to; if I buy a new body at some point, I'll bite the bullet and do it.
  - 7y ago
frippledipps 7y ago
You get the subscription offered by Adobe for 30 if you cancel the subscription.

arthurcolle 7y ago

How do you like the competitor offering so far?

bcheung 7y ago
It's pretty impressive. I wish there was scripting support though.
potta_coffee 7y ago
Not PS, but I use Affinity Designer now rather than Illustrator, and it is awesome. I love it.
- acqq 7y ago
  But how to open old projects once one switches to non-Adobe applications?
  - indymike 7y ago
    Affinity does a pretty good job with .ai .ps and other Adobe formats.
  - open-source-ux 7y ago
    Designer will import Illustrator files (.ai) and PDF files. It can also export to PSD and PDF (but not to .ai). Photo imports (and exports) to PSD file format. Some Photoshop features that aren't available in Photo (e.g. smart objects) won't be editable in the same way when opening a PSD in Photo, but you'll still be able to open the PSD file. If you have a lot of Illustrator and Photoshop files, best to try them out in the Affinity apps to see if you're happy with the import feature.
pier25 7y ago
I'm not parent but I'm still looking for a vector graphics replacement for Illustrator. Sketch, Designer, etc, are all pretty crippled when it comes to working with groups instead of layers. Many people have asked for group isolation mode in Designer for years, but it's not really a priority for Serif. https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/topic/1640-ad-isolation-mode/ https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/topic/1640-ad-is... I tried developing a script for Sketch but the SDK doesn't provide the needed API to implement it properly and quite frankly Sketch is super slow once you work on complex projects. The only software I've found that does groups well is a little software called Amadine, but it's still not very mature. The team that develops PixelMator promised a vectors graphics software but are too busy with PixelMator Pro. I haven't used Corel Draw in almost 20 years but now that they have a mac verson I will give it a try. Affinity Photo is a great replacement for Photoshop though.
- bcheung 7y ago
  I've had a horrible time with finding good vector software for my needs, especially since my requirements tend towards needing it to create physical assets in the real world (laser cutting) or the basis for game assets. There isn't any good constraint based / procedural vector software. Best I've able to find for my needs is Fusion 360 but it's really for 3D not for 2D. I want things to reflow automatically based on parameterized constraints and nothing does that except for Fusion 360 and/or OpenSCAD but those are both horrible for 2D vector. I've even resorted to use React and SVG to dynamically generate vectored laser cut designs. https://github.com/brennancheung/lasercut-react-svg/blob/master/src/HoleGuide.js https://github.com/brennancheung/lasercut-react-svg/blob/mas... If anyone has any recommendations I'd love to hear them.
  - pier25 7y ago
    > I want things to reflow automatically based on parameterized constraints Can you expand on that? You mean like having a UI solver for drawing gears?
    - bcheung 7y ago

hk__2 7y ago

Tell me about it. I use only Lightroom for my personal needs, but I need to pay for PS as well even if I’ve never used it. I contacted their support a couple time about that and the chat person always become silent at some point.

sovnade 7y ago

Photoshop/Lightroom are $100/yr combined (sometimes less if you can get a deal on the subscription card). At that price, you're still looking at significantly less than if you used to upgrade your old software every 5 years.

secabeen 7y ago
If you wanted both Photoshop and Lightroom, yes. For those of us that just used Lightroom, and could use GIMP for any light editing, it's a significant increase. I'm still using my perpetually licensed copy of Lightroom 6, and I see no reason to upgrade any time soon. (I'll probably use the Adobe DNG converter as a free translator if I ever get a new body)
- deleted 7y ago
  [deleted]
- tornato7 7y ago
  I've used the website photopea as an alternative to Photoshop, I find it much more similar and convenient than GIMP.
- account42 7y ago
  Have you tried Darktable?
- acquacow 7y ago
  The new Dehaze and Texture sliders, plus improved highlight recovery are highly worth it. Also, the latest version is finally optimized and about 2-3x faster than all prior versions.
  - secabeen 7y ago
    It's going to take more than some new features to make $100/yr worth it over $0/yr, but I see your point. I don't shoot as much as I used to; if I buy a new body at some point, I'll bite the bullet and do it.
- 7y ago

frippledipps 7y ago

You get the subscription offered by Adobe for 30 if you cancel the subscription.