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I can't imagine how many art/film creators just lost their current/future livelihood. This stymies the growth of so many individuals, some of whom may have even
by gibolt 7y ago
I can't imagine how many art/film creators just lost their current/future livelihood. This stymies the growth of so many individuals, some of whom may have eventually migrated to the U.S. and applied their extraordinary skills to support its economy.
Pirating looks like the only option, if that is even still possible with all of the features now tied to the cloud.
- orvtech 7y agoHow many of them can actually buy a license with a national average salary of $17 a month?
- fireattack 7y agoThis is a legitimate question. Even in developing countries that have much higher average income, paviating software is still super prevalent in commercial companies.
- iagovar 7y agoThey have access to internet (although unreliable most of the times) so they can work online. Freelancing is very widespread among those who have the necessary skills. There are a bunch of spanish forums where this becomes pretty evident. They also open bank accounts in other countries so they can get paid in dollars and not be monitored by the government. This people is trying to survive.
- jrwoodruff 7y agoDepends how much CC costs in Venezuela - SaaS makes it a lot easier to have big geographic pricing differences.
- gibolt 7y agoThis affects ALL of their products. Adobe has a huge suite of free/trial/student tiers as well, which also are rendered unavailable by this decision.
- orvtech 7y agoStudents will still have access to the software via other means as usual, the real impact would be on cloud services I guess
- penagwin 7y ago> Will still have access to the software via other means as usual Piracy? Surely this doesn't count as a "solution". Just because you can evade a ban doesn't mean that they "still have access" - I mean they do but it's not legal.
- orvtech 7y agoAgree is not a "Solution" but it does not has the impact that most people are imagining. I am just curious, what would be the right way for companies to tackle this, how would they know who is the family of a regime official for example? Most people's comments seem to be aimed at Adobe instead of the complexity that is dealing with this executive order.
- nybble41 7y ago> but it's not legal Not in the U.S., no, but is it illegal in Venezuela? They are under no obligation to recognize U.S. copyright claims. Or any copyright claims, for that matter. And why would they, given that the U.S. is enforcing sanctions against them?
- penagwin 7y agoI was wondering this yesterday too - Is it stealing if it's not for sale (so there is no lost revenue)? My gut reaction is that if Venezuela is apart of any of the international trade laws then it'd still be illegal but there's essentially no way in practice you'd get in trouble for it (Assuming you're a Venezuelan citizen and you aren't like blatantly selling it in the street or something).
- nybble41 7y ago
- iagovar 7y agoMany venezuelans work online because of this very issue. So, probably, many.
- unreal37 7y agoI think it's fair to say that people living in Venezuela have bigger problems than access to Adobe products. They live in an extremely socialist country with crippling economic worldwide sanctions, massive inflation (300,000% or something like that). Their own money is worthless and most use US dollars to transact business.
- iagovar 7y agoYeah, tell that to the freelancer who works from Maracaibo and uses US dollars to import the necessary stuff from Colombia, be it medicines or even food. If I were venezuelan I'd just pirate the software and avoid this nonsense.
- StavrosK 7y agoRealistically, that's what will happen, and thank God for piracy.