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China has military control over the south China sea and a lot of the oil imports to SEA countries. Assuming the US pulls out, Japan, south Korea, Australia will

China has military control over the south China sea and a lot of the oil imports to SEA countries. Assuming the US pulls out, Japan, south Korea, Australia will all face strategic challenge from China over the next few decades. The US refuses to see China as a strategic threat, and only as a economic challenge. Australia is looking into getting 16-32 submarines ordered right now, to cover for future defense outcomes. Aus and the SEA middle powers are having talks about obtaining nukes simply to prevent them being used against the countries. China is projected to grow to be double the size of the US's econony. China is willing to spend those benefits in the south China sea and on BRI. Make no mistake about the military of China. It is a concern. This is as big as power politics get.

est31 7y ago
That's why I said currently. I completely agree with you that the chinese military will increase in power and relevance.
CapricornNoble 7y ago
>>>The US refuses to see China as a strategic threat Huh? The new Commandant of the Marine Corps has flat-out said it.[1] And he's not the first in the Pentagon to take China seriously.[2] And from [3]: "Emblematic of this mistake was the roll-out of the Air-Sea Battle doctrine. First outlined in a then-classified memo in 2009, ASB became official doctrine in 2010. From the beginning, it was an effort to develop an operational doctrine for a possible military confrontation with China and then-U.S. Secretary of Defense Robert Gates openly discussed the need to counter China’s growing military capabilities. The signal received in Beijing was the U.S. had hostile intentions toward China and was trying to contain it militarily. The result was that the entire pivot was seen by Beijing as part of a broader effort to encircle China." [1]https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3031445/us-marine-corps-must-adapt-long-term-china-threat https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3031445/us... [2]https://foreignpolicy.com/2016/05/15/a-novel-about-war-with-china-strikes-a-chord-at-the-pentagon/ https://foreignpolicy.com/2016/05/15/a-novel-about-war-with-... [3]https://www.japantimes.co.jp/opinion/2017/01/23/commentary/world-commentary/pivot-asia-obamas-biggest-mistake/ https://www.japantimes.co.jp/opinion/2017/01/23/commentary/w...

est31 7y ago

That's why I said currently. I completely agree with you that the chinese military will increase in power and relevance.

CapricornNoble 7y ago

>>>The US refuses to see China as a strategic threat Huh? The new Commandant of the Marine Corps has flat-out said it.[1] And he's not the first in the Pentagon to take China seriously.[2] And from [3]: "Emblematic of this mistake was the roll-out of the Air-Sea Battle doctrine. First outlined in a then-classified memo in 2009, ASB became official doctrine in 2010. From the beginning, it was an effort to develop an operational doctrine for a possible military confrontation with China and then-U.S. Secretary of Defense Robert Gates openly discussed the need to counter China’s growing military capabilities. The signal received in Beijing was the U.S. had hostile intentions toward China and was trying to contain it militarily. The result was that the entire pivot was seen by Beijing as part of a broader effort to encircle China." [1]https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3031445/us-marine-corps-must-adapt-long-term-china-threat https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3031445/us... [2]https://foreignpolicy.com/2016/05/15/a-novel-about-war-with-china-strikes-a-chord-at-the-pentagon/ https://foreignpolicy.com/2016/05/15/a-novel-about-war-with-... [3]https://www.japantimes.co.jp/opinion/2017/01/23/commentary/world-commentary/pivot-asia-obamas-biggest-mistake/ https://www.japantimes.co.jp/opinion/2017/01/23/commentary/w...