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I think most people on Hacker-News would know that Taiwan exists, even though a flag is missing on their phone. I think for the general population in the US or

by maweki 7y ago

I think most people on Hacker-News would know that Taiwan exists, even though a flag is missing on their phone. I think for the general population in the US or Europe that's not so clear. If one would never hear about Taiwan, would we really "know" it exists?

have_faith 7y ago
> If one would never hear about Taiwan, would we really "know" it exists? It's a sort of reverse branding exercise. If you can reduce exposure as much as possible there's not going to be a lot of sentiment for supporting the cause. What would be of Palestine today without the exposure that has been directed at it.
- maweki 7y ago
  It's not like Israel is - not talking about the truth of that claim here - denying the very existence of their neighbouring states. On the contrary, palestine and part of the palestine people are branded as great evil. Being branded as _anything_ is being "known". Famously or infamously.
JumpCrisscross 7y ago
> I think most people on Hacker-News would know that Taiwan exists I frequently come across, in America, people who are genuinely surprised that Taiwan is a sovereign state.
- oasisbob 7y ago
  Are you sure they don't just disagree with your use of the word sovereign? I find it a strange way to describe the ROC and Taiwan. Without a clear territory under exclusive control, recognition from other governments, or independence from the mainland, what's so sovereign about it?
  - JumpCrisscross 7y ago
    > Are you sure they don't just disagree with your use of the word sovereign? Yes, when people debate Taiwan’s sovereignty (for, independent foreign relations and a military, against, limited recognition) they understand the local context. That there is legitimate dispute with respect to its status is news to a surprising number of Americans.
  - _iyig 7y ago
    >Without a clear territory under exclusive control But isn’t there? Taiwan has borders and a military.

by maweki 7y ago

have_faith 7y ago

> If one would never hear about Taiwan, would we really "know" it exists? It's a sort of reverse branding exercise. If you can reduce exposure as much as possible there's not going to be a lot of sentiment for supporting the cause. What would be of Palestine today without the exposure that has been directed at it.

maweki 7y ago
It's not like Israel is - not talking about the truth of that claim here - denying the very existence of their neighbouring states. On the contrary, palestine and part of the palestine people are branded as great evil. Being branded as _anything_ is being "known". Famously or infamously.

JumpCrisscross 7y ago

> I think most people on Hacker-News would know that Taiwan exists I frequently come across, in America, people who are genuinely surprised that Taiwan is a sovereign state.

oasisbob 7y ago
Are you sure they don't just disagree with your use of the word sovereign? I find it a strange way to describe the ROC and Taiwan. Without a clear territory under exclusive control, recognition from other governments, or independence from the mainland, what's so sovereign about it?
- JumpCrisscross 7y ago
  > Are you sure they don't just disagree with your use of the word sovereign? Yes, when people debate Taiwan’s sovereignty (for, independent foreign relations and a military, against, limited recognition) they understand the local context. That there is legitimate dispute with respect to its status is news to a surprising number of Americans.
- _iyig 7y ago
  >Without a clear territory under exclusive control But isn’t there? Taiwan has borders and a military.