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I don't see this mentioned anywhere. But the Tesla model 3 has the highest saftey rating of any car. disclaimer I am pro tesla. https://www.iihs.org/ratings/v

I don't see this mentioned anywhere. But the Tesla model 3 has the highest saftey rating of any car. disclaimer I am pro tesla. https://www.iihs.org/ratings/vehicle/tesla/model-3-4-door-sedan/2019 https://www.iihs.org/ratings/vehicle/tesla/model-3-4-door-se...

rumblefrog 7y ago
Makes sense since electric cars has no engine, leaving more room for the crumble zone. On top of the center of gravity with the battery pack.
electriclove 7y ago
Fantastic technology, great driving experience, lowest cost of ownership, safest cars on the road.. the masses will catch on.. Yes, I own TSLA and multiple Teslas.
metaphor 7y ago
> But the Tesla model 3 has the highest saftey rating of any car. Confirmation bias. The overall rating is also held by BMW 3 Series, Lexus ES 350, and Mercedes-Benz C-Class (which all rated better in child seat anchors ease of use)...and that's just in the midsize luxury cars category[1]. [1] https://www.iihs.org/ratings/class-summary/midsize-luxury-cars https://www.iihs.org/ratings/class-summary/midsize-luxury-ca...
- goshx 7y ago
  Compare their crash test videos. The difference is evident.
  - metaphor 7y ago
    I did but nothing really jumped out as evident. However, the post-mortem analysis was indeed revealing. TL;DR the Model 3 didn't perform as well with respect to driver-side door hinge pillar intrusion and door sill buckling, contributing to "moderate risk of injury to the left lower leg". General remarks for Mercedes-Benz C-Class[1] and Lexus ES 350[2]: > The dummy's position in relation to the door frame, steering wheel, and instrument panel after the crash test indicates that the driver's survival space was maintained well. > The driver's space was maintained well in both tests, and risk of injuries to the dummy's legs and feet was low. ...as opposed to Tesla Model 3[3]: > The dummy's position in relation to the door frame, steering wheel, and instrument panel after the crash test indicates that the driver's overall survival space was maintained well, despite moderate intrusion of the lower part of the door hinge pillar and buckling of the door sill. > Although intrusion overall into the driver's space was minimal, door hinge pillar intrusion contributed to a moderate risk of injury to the left lower leg. [1] https://www.iihs.org/ratings/vehicle/mercedes-benz/c-class-4-door-sedan/2019#small-overlap-front-driver-side https://www.iihs.org/ratings/vehicle/mercedes-benz/c-class-4... [2] https://www.iihs.org/ratings/vehicle/lexus/es-350-4-door-sedan/2019#small-overlap-front-driver-side https://www.iihs.org/ratings/vehicle/lexus/es-350-4-door-sed... [3] https://www.iihs.org/ratings/vehicle/mercedes-benz/c-class-4-door-sedan/2019#small-overlap-front-driver-side https://www.iihs.org/ratings/vehicle/mercedes-benz/c-class-4...
    - goshx 7y ago
      Very good points, but I wasn't able to find videos of comparison with those cars you mentioned specifically, but check Volvo's S60, which also scores the highest: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGgoPOGgOcc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGgoPOGgOcc
      - metaphor 7y ago
        The Volvo S60 didn't even make the secondary IIHS Top Safety Pick list for 2019, let alone the highest Top Safety Pick+ list being discussed. Why is this video relevant? Nevermind that there isn't a dummy post-mortem analysis supplementing the video.
        goshx 7y ago
        You are correct. I had in mind a different test.
- xedeon 7y ago
  Not really... You only mentioned IIHS but the Model 3 has been consistent globally on safety test results (Cherry picking?).. Along with NHSTA and IIS in the U.S. While BMW's crash avoidance systems also failed miserably while the Model 3 aced it the test because of the superior auto emergency braking: https://twitter.com/tesla_truth/status/1160779803349282818 https://twitter.com/tesla_truth/status/1160779803349282818 Tesla Model 3 awarded 5-star ANCAP safety rating in Australia https://thedriven.io/2019/07/30/tesla-model-3-awarded-5-star-ancap-safety-rating-in-australia/ https://thedriven.io/2019/07/30/tesla-model-3-awarded-5-star... Model 3 earns 5-Star Safety Rating from Euro NCAP | Tesla https://www.tesla.com/blog/model-3-earns-5-star-safety-rating-euro-ncap https://www.tesla.com/blog/model-3-earns-5-star-safety-ratin...
  - metaphor 7y ago
    Now read one step above[1] my remark. The parent made a false assertion (the claim of "highest saftey (sic) rating of any car") while specifically citing IIHS ratings. I corrected this assertion with fact by citing a higher-level IIHS reference. That's not cherry picking...that's proper constraint. In contrast, you'll have to do a lot better than actual cherry-picked Twitter garbage, blog spam, and self-referencing Telsa press releases. > Along with NHSTA and IIS in the U.S. Remind us who IIS is again?? I'll be happy to digest any independent NHTSA OVSC test reports on the subject that you point us towards...coincidentally, I've been shits-and-grins analyzing a bunch of FMVSS 106 and 218 test reports in preparation for next year's racing season, so I suspect they won't put me to sleep...to be sure, not that I really care for Tesla. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21182264 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21182264

rumblefrog 7y ago

Makes sense since electric cars has no engine, leaving more room for the crumble zone. On top of the center of gravity with the battery pack.

electriclove 7y ago

Fantastic technology, great driving experience, lowest cost of ownership, safest cars on the road.. the masses will catch on.. Yes, I own TSLA and multiple Teslas.

metaphor 7y ago

> But the Tesla model 3 has the highest saftey rating of any car. Confirmation bias. The overall rating is also held by BMW 3 Series, Lexus ES 350, and Mercedes-Benz C-Class (which all rated better in child seat anchors ease of use)...and that's just in the midsize luxury cars category[1]. [1] https://www.iihs.org/ratings/class-summary/midsize-luxury-cars https://www.iihs.org/ratings/class-summary/midsize-luxury-ca...

goshx 7y ago
Compare their crash test videos. The difference is evident.
- metaphor 7y ago
  I did but nothing really jumped out as evident. However, the post-mortem analysis was indeed revealing. TL;DR the Model 3 didn't perform as well with respect to driver-side door hinge pillar intrusion and door sill buckling, contributing to "moderate risk of injury to the left lower leg". General remarks for Mercedes-Benz C-Class[1] and Lexus ES 350[2]: > The dummy's position in relation to the door frame, steering wheel, and instrument panel after the crash test indicates that the driver's survival space was maintained well. > The driver's space was maintained well in both tests, and risk of injuries to the dummy's legs and feet was low. ...as opposed to Tesla Model 3[3]: > The dummy's position in relation to the door frame, steering wheel, and instrument panel after the crash test indicates that the driver's overall survival space was maintained well, despite moderate intrusion of the lower part of the door hinge pillar and buckling of the door sill. > Although intrusion overall into the driver's space was minimal, door hinge pillar intrusion contributed to a moderate risk of injury to the left lower leg. [1] https://www.iihs.org/ratings/vehicle/mercedes-benz/c-class-4-door-sedan/2019#small-overlap-front-driver-side https://www.iihs.org/ratings/vehicle/mercedes-benz/c-class-4... [2] https://www.iihs.org/ratings/vehicle/lexus/es-350-4-door-sedan/2019#small-overlap-front-driver-side https://www.iihs.org/ratings/vehicle/lexus/es-350-4-door-sed... [3] https://www.iihs.org/ratings/vehicle/mercedes-benz/c-class-4-door-sedan/2019#small-overlap-front-driver-side https://www.iihs.org/ratings/vehicle/mercedes-benz/c-class-4...
  - goshx 7y ago
    Very good points, but I wasn't able to find videos of comparison with those cars you mentioned specifically, but check Volvo's S60, which also scores the highest: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGgoPOGgOcc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGgoPOGgOcc
    - metaphor 7y ago
      The Volvo S60 didn't even make the secondary IIHS Top Safety Pick list for 2019, let alone the highest Top Safety Pick+ list being discussed. Why is this video relevant? Nevermind that there isn't a dummy post-mortem analysis supplementing the video.
      - goshx 7y ago
        You are correct. I had in mind a different test.
xedeon 7y ago
Not really... You only mentioned IIHS but the Model 3 has been consistent globally on safety test results (Cherry picking?).. Along with NHSTA and IIS in the U.S. While BMW's crash avoidance systems also failed miserably while the Model 3 aced it the test because of the superior auto emergency braking: https://twitter.com/tesla_truth/status/1160779803349282818 https://twitter.com/tesla_truth/status/1160779803349282818 Tesla Model 3 awarded 5-star ANCAP safety rating in Australia https://thedriven.io/2019/07/30/tesla-model-3-awarded-5-star-ancap-safety-rating-in-australia/ https://thedriven.io/2019/07/30/tesla-model-3-awarded-5-star... Model 3 earns 5-Star Safety Rating from Euro NCAP | Tesla https://www.tesla.com/blog/model-3-earns-5-star-safety-rating-euro-ncap https://www.tesla.com/blog/model-3-earns-5-star-safety-ratin...
- metaphor 7y ago
  Now read one step above[1] my remark. The parent made a false assertion (the claim of "highest saftey (sic) rating of any car") while specifically citing IIHS ratings. I corrected this assertion with fact by citing a higher-level IIHS reference. That's not cherry picking...that's proper constraint. In contrast, you'll have to do a lot better than actual cherry-picked Twitter garbage, blog spam, and self-referencing Telsa press releases. > Along with NHSTA and IIS in the U.S. Remind us who IIS is again?? I'll be happy to digest any independent NHTSA OVSC test reports on the subject that you point us towards...coincidentally, I've been shits-and-grins analyzing a bunch of FMVSS 106 and 218 test reports in preparation for next year's racing season, so I suspect they won't put me to sleep...to be sure, not that I really care for Tesla. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21182264 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21182264