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The "security" part is of course complete bullshit. They slowly want to turn macOS into a walled garden for more control and profit like they did in the mobile

The "security" part is of course complete bullshit. They slowly want to turn macOS into a walled garden for more control and profit like they did in the mobile space.

mikece 7y ago
I don't know about everyone else but the only reason I even have macOS computers is because I'm making apps for iOS. If it were possible to develop for iOS on Windows 10 or Linux I would do that in a heartbeat.
- 72deluxe 7y ago
  I don't know much about it but I thought you could develop for iOS using C# using Visual Studio 2017/2019 and it remotely deploy to Mac? I read a bit about it because I wanted to do it myself but I haven't upgraded from Sierra yet due to no support/broken for my audio hardware in newer versions.
- WilliamEdward 7y ago
  There's that, but I also just kind of like the operating system more than others ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Angostura 7y ago
Except of course it isn't complete bullshit. It's saved me a few times where naive family members (one greater than the age of 80, the other under 12) has inadvertently downloaded mal/annoyanceware and tried to install it. Crapware is a substantial cause of 'my machine's not working properly' among the less technically savvy
- realusername 7y ago
  There's no relation between proper sandboxing (actual security) and a walled-garden like apple is building. You also can download malware on the App Store.
  - Spivak 7y ago
    Okay, your wish is granted. "Apps that want to escape an extremely minimal runtime sandbox need to be approved by Apple."
    - realusername 7y ago
      I would prefer to leave that choice to the user.
      - qtplatypus 7y ago
        And the user can choose to bypass that check by removing the quarantined flag.
        realusername 7y ago
        You have a point but that's exactly the same on an app store. They can just select "yes" to the permission dialog and we have exactly the same issue.
- johnisgood 7y ago
  On the other hand, people who have been doing this for a living will have less work to do!
scarface74 7y ago
People have been saying this for a decade.....

The "security" part is of course complete bullshit. They slowly want to turn macOS into a walled garden for more control and profit like they did in the mobile space.

mikece 7y ago

I don't know about everyone else but the only reason I even have macOS computers is because I'm making apps for iOS. If it were possible to develop for iOS on Windows 10 or Linux I would do that in a heartbeat.

72deluxe 7y ago
I don't know much about it but I thought you could develop for iOS using C# using Visual Studio 2017/2019 and it remotely deploy to Mac? I read a bit about it because I wanted to do it myself but I haven't upgraded from Sierra yet due to no support/broken for my audio hardware in newer versions.
WilliamEdward 7y ago
There's that, but I also just kind of like the operating system more than others ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Angostura 7y ago

Except of course it isn't complete bullshit. It's saved me a few times where naive family members (one greater than the age of 80, the other under 12) has inadvertently downloaded mal/annoyanceware and tried to install it. Crapware is a substantial cause of 'my machine's not working properly' among the less technically savvy

realusername 7y ago
There's no relation between proper sandboxing (actual security) and a walled-garden like apple is building. You also can download malware on the App Store.
- Spivak 7y ago
  Okay, your wish is granted. "Apps that want to escape an extremely minimal runtime sandbox need to be approved by Apple."
  - realusername 7y ago
    I would prefer to leave that choice to the user.
    - qtplatypus 7y ago
      And the user can choose to bypass that check by removing the quarantined flag.
      - realusername 7y ago
        You have a point but that's exactly the same on an app store. They can just select "yes" to the permission dialog and we have exactly the same issue.
johnisgood 7y ago
On the other hand, people who have been doing this for a living will have less work to do!

scarface74 7y ago

People have been saying this for a decade.....