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You mean as long as PLA keeps planting undercover operatives amongst the protesters as agent provocateurs to incite the violence that's then used as an excuse f

You mean as long as PLA keeps planting undercover operatives amongst the protesters as agent provocateurs to incite the violence that's then used as an excuse for a 'harder' stance? Please, ask me for sources. I have probably over a hundred unspinnable photos and videos collected from r/HongKong by now. New ones keep coming every day. Here's an appetiser: https://i.redd.it/0o2411874tj31.jpg https://i.redd.it/0o2411874tj31.jpg

mytailorisrich 7y ago
Right, all those hundreds, if not more of people are all undercover operatives and without them the protests would have stopped long ago. It was them who stormed the LegCo... This is not serious.
- simonh 7y ago
  Proof that government agents are fomenting and inciting the violence "isn't serious"?
  - mytailorisrich 7y ago
    Trying to discard and ignore all the violent actions, and actions that look very anti-China by claiming that they are "fomented" by the government is not serious. One day we read an interview with a guy who took part in the storming of the LegCo and everybody here is in awe before its determination. The next, someone criticise violent actions and you guys claim that they are by government' agents provocateurs... And every day I can watch BBC reporters following violent protests from within. There is nothing wrong with admitting that some forms of protest are hurting the cause of democracy.
    - missosoup 7y ago
      What would you suggest the people of HK should do instead to defend their democracy? Stop protesting, pretend nothing ever happened, keep CCP puppet Carrie Lam in power and wait for more CCP encroachment? We already know how that turns out. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causeway_Bay_Books_disappearances https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causeway_Bay_Books_disappearan...
    - rumanator 7y ago
      > Trying to discard and ignore all the violent actions, Aren't you intentionally turning a blind eye to the fact that the Chinese government has been conducting false flag operations where they plant heir operatives within crouds disguised as protesters to then vandalize and attack not only bystanders but also the police to justify drawing a violent reaction and smear the reputation of the pro-democracy protesters? It seems odd that you are so against violence but somehow fail to mention the fact that the Chinese government is using violence to discredit pro-democracy protests.
topologistics 7y ago
Consider me appetized, could you please explain the significance of the holstered weapon and provide more pictures? I'm guessing only cops can have guns in China or something like that. Thanks ^_^
dirtyid 7y ago
https://streamable.com/z37ja?fbclid=IwAR1DHWadBHifPc14DiHwzPKPOdyH0U_pXiK8OeBD01Ga9eyygcjM6R8JSxw# https://streamable.com/z37ja?fbclid=IwAR1DHWadBHifPc14DiHwzP... Here's a video of the same protester shooting the airsoft glock on the bridge where they threw molotovs. You can keep trying to spin your "unspinnable" photos taken out of context, people have been trying non-stop. But the fact remains that despite overwhelmingly biased western MSM support of the protesters, no mainstream outlet has endorsed these paranoid PLA agent provocateur narrative, or the many other outrageous misinformation attempts especially by r/HongKong users (Legco was inside job, look at the commissioner watch and other extremely stupid conspiracy theories). Confidently believing /r/HongKong is a reliable source of information is media literacy 101 tier ignorance.

mytailorisrich 7y ago

Right, all those hundreds, if not more of people are all undercover operatives and without them the protests would have stopped long ago. It was them who stormed the LegCo... This is not serious.

simonh 7y ago
Proof that government agents are fomenting and inciting the violence "isn't serious"?
- mytailorisrich 7y ago
  Trying to discard and ignore all the violent actions, and actions that look very anti-China by claiming that they are "fomented" by the government is not serious. One day we read an interview with a guy who took part in the storming of the LegCo and everybody here is in awe before its determination. The next, someone criticise violent actions and you guys claim that they are by government' agents provocateurs... And every day I can watch BBC reporters following violent protests from within. There is nothing wrong with admitting that some forms of protest are hurting the cause of democracy.
  - missosoup 7y ago
    What would you suggest the people of HK should do instead to defend their democracy? Stop protesting, pretend nothing ever happened, keep CCP puppet Carrie Lam in power and wait for more CCP encroachment? We already know how that turns out. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causeway_Bay_Books_disappearances https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causeway_Bay_Books_disappearan...
  - rumanator 7y ago
    > Trying to discard and ignore all the violent actions, Aren't you intentionally turning a blind eye to the fact that the Chinese government has been conducting false flag operations where they plant heir operatives within crouds disguised as protesters to then vandalize and attack not only bystanders but also the police to justify drawing a violent reaction and smear the reputation of the pro-democracy protesters? It seems odd that you are so against violence but somehow fail to mention the fact that the Chinese government is using violence to discredit pro-democracy protests.

topologistics 7y ago

Consider me appetized, could you please explain the significance of the holstered weapon and provide more pictures? I'm guessing only cops can have guns in China or something like that. Thanks ^_^

dirtyid 7y ago

https://streamable.com/z37ja?fbclid=IwAR1DHWadBHifPc14DiHwzPKPOdyH0U_pXiK8OeBD01Ga9eyygcjM6R8JSxw# https://streamable.com/z37ja?fbclid=IwAR1DHWadBHifPc14DiHwzP... Here's a video of the same protester shooting the airsoft glock on the bridge where they threw molotovs. You can keep trying to spin your "unspinnable" photos taken out of context, people have been trying non-stop. But the fact remains that despite overwhelmingly biased western MSM support of the protesters, no mainstream outlet has endorsed these paranoid PLA agent provocateur narrative, or the many other outrageous misinformation attempts especially by r/HongKong users (Legco was inside job, look at the commissioner watch and other extremely stupid conspiracy theories). Confidently believing /r/HongKong is a reliable source of information is media literacy 101 tier ignorance.