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> Except for management, as standups are a simple way of keeping psychological pressure on developers and squeezing every last bit out of them. I haven't ever
by sime2009 7y ago
> Except for management, as standups are a simple way of keeping psychological pressure on developers and squeezing every last bit out of them.
I haven't ever felt this kind of pressure from management in my stand ups. We very rarely have anyone from management present anyway. The stand up exists for the benefit of the team, not management. It is not a status report for management.
- AmericanChopper 7y agoA lot of HN commenters have a tendency to project what ever experience they have with poor management onto all management in general. Poorly run teams have problems, poorly run projects have problems, poorly designed apps have problems... But well runs teams exist, and they use a lot of the same management tools as the bad ones. I’ve had both great and terrible experiences with standups. In a well run team, I love them. But in a poorly run team, getting frustrated with the idea of standup is about is misguided as getting upset with Jira for your managers shortcomings.
- EdwardDiego 7y agoIt is a status report in companies doing "Scrum" - usually after CTO paid an Agile-with-a-capital-A consultant. I've been a bit of volunteer agile coaching in my area, and yeah, one example that always stuck with me was that the product managers and BAs just got renamed product owners, and they sat in every retro and attended every stand-up. Funnily enough they were never available to the team during planning. They had important meetings on a Monday... I tried to empathise to them that "stand-up and retro are solely for the team", but no dice. They still wanted that command and control.
- isoskeles 7y agoFor some people, the manager-employee relationship is a strictly adversarial one, to the point that they make it a self-fulfilling prophecy by viewing every act of their manager (or employees) as malicious if not a perceived slight.