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> No censorship shall be maintained How does that square with Japanese censorship of pornography?

StavrosK 7y ago
It's not censorship; they actually have pixellated genitals.
coldtea 7y ago
Perhaps they don't bundle censorship of ideas and political messages and discussion with censorship of people fucking for others' entertainment...
- serf 7y ago
  what about people fucking for the sake of proving a political point? what decides which way their motivation swings, legally? perhaps they, and others, shouldn't consider the lines between censored topics to be so vividly painted as 'indecent' or 'not'. it's an issue that some of the most important law-shaping courts in the world have argued back and fourth about for years; the criteria for concluding what is or isn't indecent.
  - coldtea 7y ago
    >what about people fucking for the sake of proving a political point? Then they can always find another way to make the same point. >what decides which way their motivation swings, legally? Society, courts, etc. >it's an issue that some of the most important law-shaping courts in the world have argued back and fourth about for years; the criteria for concluding what is or isn't indecent. Yes.
    - homonculus1 7y ago
      >Then they can always find another way to make the same point. Making a political statement in certain way is itself a statement.
- Nasrudith 7y ago
  That is the censorship of a political idea - that the government has no place censoring depictions of what is responsible for every human being's existence masking itself as "morality" and "community standards". "But advocating it is still legal" would be no more valid an excuse than making displaying or depicting police misconduct illegal but nominally allowing advocacy against police misconduct. The point of censorship is enforced ignorance to maintain control.
gnode 7y ago
Same way as in the US and many western countries. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_free_speech_exceptions#Obscenity https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_free_speech_exce...

It's not censorship; they actually have pixellated genitals.

Perhaps they don't bundle censorship of ideas and political messages and discussion with censorship of people fucking for others' entertainment...

serf 7y ago
what about people fucking for the sake of proving a political point? what decides which way their motivation swings, legally? perhaps they, and others, shouldn't consider the lines between censored topics to be so vividly painted as 'indecent' or 'not'. it's an issue that some of the most important law-shaping courts in the world have argued back and fourth about for years; the criteria for concluding what is or isn't indecent.
- coldtea 7y ago
  >what about people fucking for the sake of proving a political point? Then they can always find another way to make the same point. >what decides which way their motivation swings, legally? Society, courts, etc. >it's an issue that some of the most important law-shaping courts in the world have argued back and fourth about for years; the criteria for concluding what is or isn't indecent. Yes.
  - homonculus1 7y ago
    >Then they can always find another way to make the same point. Making a political statement in certain way is itself a statement.
Nasrudith 7y ago
That is the censorship of a political idea - that the government has no place censoring depictions of what is responsible for every human being's existence masking itself as "morality" and "community standards". "But advocating it is still legal" would be no more valid an excuse than making displaying or depicting police misconduct illegal but nominally allowing advocacy against police misconduct. The point of censorship is enforced ignorance to maintain control.

gnode 7y ago

Same way as in the US and many western countries. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_free_speech_exceptions#Obscenity https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_free_speech_exce...