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16 million iPhones over 90 days is 178,000 / day. This is getting down to near half Android's claim of 300,000 / day (not all phones, but one would presume nea

by zmmmmm 16y ago

16 million iPhones over 90 days is 178,000 / day. This is getting down to near half Android's claim of 300,000 / day (not all phones, but one would presume nearly all). Of course, add in the other iOS devices and Apple is back in front, but it's interesting to see how far behind Android they are in the phone market now.

lotusleaf1987 16y ago
Really? Android is on every carrier. iPhone at the moment is only on At&t. If the iPhone were on all carriers the way Android is, Android almost certainly wouldn't be so far ahead. Hence... the iPhone is headed to Verizon. Let's follow up in a year and see where things are at then. Also, Android is on dozens of devices at different prices points. There have only been 4 iPhones... it's Apples to Oranges (pun intended). And anyways... Android isn't hurting the iPhone, it's hurting Blackberry: http://www.asymco.com/2011/01/11/for-every-att-android-user-there-are-15-iphone-users-what-will-be-the-ratio-at-verizon/ http://www.asymco.com/2011/01/11/for-every-att-android-user-...
- zmmmmm 16y ago
  I don't disagree with much that you say. There are many explanations for Android's success - some of them are due to characteristics of Android (openness, more power and flexibility, Google branding and services integration, etc), others are due to failures of Apple(carrier exclusivity). These things help explain it but they don't change the facts of it. You take a similar line about Android - eg: why did Google not support an iPod Touch like devices? We could say, "sure, iOS looks more successful than Android overall but that's just because Google doesn't support non-phone devices yet" - perhaps it explains why Android doesn't have overall more market share yet, but it doesn't change that facts of the situation - in overall marketshare iOS wins hands down.
Samuel_Michon 16y ago
Google claims carriers are activating 300,000 Android devices a day. The Apple figure you mentioned is of actual hardware sales, limited to phones. I'm not sure whether the two figures are comparable. In any case, sales volume for the entire platform is more interesting to developers, as an iPhone app will also work on iPhone touch and iPad. Combining sales of all iOS devices that allow 3rd party apps, Apple sold 375,000 a day in the last quarter. (33.57m/90) What I found especially interesting in today's conference call was the figure for iOS' installed base: 160 million. Android has a long way to go.
jonhohle 16y ago
That claim was also made during the middle of the holiday season. I'd wager activations have cooled off since then.
- Samuel_Michon 16y ago
  Right, and the numbers themselves are kind of dubious, too: On Dec 6, Andy Rubin blogged that there were 200,000 activations a day. On Dec 8, Andy Rubin tweeted there were 300,000 activations a day. http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/12/introducing-nexus-s-with-gingerbread.html http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/12/introducing-nexus-s-w... http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2010/12/08/andy-rubin-google-activates-300000-phones-every-day/ http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2010/12/08/andy-rubin-google-act...

by zmmmmm 16y ago

lotusleaf1987 16y ago

Really? Android is on every carrier. iPhone at the moment is only on At&t. If the iPhone were on all carriers the way Android is, Android almost certainly wouldn't be so far ahead. Hence... the iPhone is headed to Verizon. Let's follow up in a year and see where things are at then. Also, Android is on dozens of devices at different prices points. There have only been 4 iPhones... it's Apples to Oranges (pun intended). And anyways... Android isn't hurting the iPhone, it's hurting Blackberry: http://www.asymco.com/2011/01/11/for-every-att-android-user-there-are-15-iphone-users-what-will-be-the-ratio-at-verizon/ http://www.asymco.com/2011/01/11/for-every-att-android-user-...

zmmmmm 16y ago
I don't disagree with much that you say. There are many explanations for Android's success - some of them are due to characteristics of Android (openness, more power and flexibility, Google branding and services integration, etc), others are due to failures of Apple(carrier exclusivity). These things help explain it but they don't change the facts of it. You take a similar line about Android - eg: why did Google not support an iPod Touch like devices? We could say, "sure, iOS looks more successful than Android overall but that's just because Google doesn't support non-phone devices yet" - perhaps it explains why Android doesn't have overall more market share yet, but it doesn't change that facts of the situation - in overall marketshare iOS wins hands down.

Samuel_Michon 16y ago

Google claims carriers are activating 300,000 Android devices a day. The Apple figure you mentioned is of actual hardware sales, limited to phones. I'm not sure whether the two figures are comparable. In any case, sales volume for the entire platform is more interesting to developers, as an iPhone app will also work on iPhone touch and iPad. Combining sales of all iOS devices that allow 3rd party apps, Apple sold 375,000 a day in the last quarter. (33.57m/90) What I found especially interesting in today's conference call was the figure for iOS' installed base: 160 million. Android has a long way to go.

jonhohle 16y ago

That claim was also made during the middle of the holiday season. I'd wager activations have cooled off since then.

Samuel_Michon 16y ago
Right, and the numbers themselves are kind of dubious, too: On Dec 6, Andy Rubin blogged that there were 200,000 activations a day. On Dec 8, Andy Rubin tweeted there were 300,000 activations a day. http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/12/introducing-nexus-s-with-gingerbread.html http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/12/introducing-nexus-s-w... http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2010/12/08/andy-rubin-google-activates-300000-phones-every-day/ http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2010/12/08/andy-rubin-google-act...