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basic respect? you realize these are code examples that sometimes talk about people and use normal pronouns that everyone understands just fine? if theres a ex
by anon12345690 7y ago
basic respect? you realize these are code examples that sometimes talk about people and use normal pronouns that everyone understands just fine?
if theres a example with bob and alice and we say he and she, whats the problem? do we really need to be extra careful in case Bob in the example is trans?
Like thats really a problem? this doesnt have anything to do with basic respect. its just people who want to control everyone else
- damnyou 7y agoYes, if Bob asks you to use they/them pronouns then you should use they/them pronouns for Bob, just like if they ask you to use the name Robert. Intentionally using the wrong name or pronouns for someone is disrespectful, and would be considered an HR violation in a California workplace.
- anon12345690 7y agoits just posts on the site not real people. chill. you need to realize context and not get all offended and when you let someone control what you can and cant say because of their feelings its gonna be a bad time. california is already eating itself. is that really what you want?
- nfoz 7y agoNone of this is about posts involving hypothetical people (like Alice&Bob in cryptography examples). You're the only one who thinks that. The topic is about when a real user asks that they be referred to with specific pronouns, and other people instead refer to them with different pronouns or avoid using gendered pronouns. This whole conversation is about real people.
- anon12345690 7y agowhos that person then? you wont find a name because its not about specific people. if it was then it would be pretty simple to just use the pronouns when talking to them and there wouldnt be any issue but this is about editing posts to be gender neutral. why do we need to do that? if YOU dont have a specific pronoun then whats the problem?
- damnyou 7y agoThere are already all sorts of controls over what people can and can't say in professional settings. You can't use the N-word or keep asking someone out after they've said no in a workplace environment. These controls exist for reasons that should be obvious with a moment of thought. This is different from a public space where the rules are more relaxed (but there are still some controls). And you're welcome to be as shitty as you want in your own home.
- anon12345690 7y agoyea theres a difference between what you CANT say and what you MUST say guess what, rules against what you cant say are fine but you cant make me have say something. thats tyranny. youre welcome to be as outraged as you want in your own home but you dont get to control my life because of it. its called freedom.
- damnyou 7y agoNo, there are things you are forced to say in workplaces. For example, you can't act nice towards almost everyone on a team but ignore the only Black person. That's exactly what trans people want, to be given the same respect as everyone else. If you use pronouns for everyone other than the only trans person on the team, they're quite rightly going to be upset.
- anon12345690 7y agono youre looking at it backwards. if the only black person on the team kept saying I want you to call me "your majesty" and i ignored them then its not cause theyre black but because theyre unreasonable and demanding from everyone else guess what, easier to dump the unreasonable person. but of course if you cant see people for more than their skin color then youll think its discrimination. i cant help you with that. and heres a bonus story for the day about how this gender neutral stuff is hurting people and kids: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7542005/Girls-skipping-school-avoid-sharing-gender-neutral-toilets-boys.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7542005/Girls-skipp...