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I don't think humans are well matched to consuming compressed text. The first 17 verses of genesis, post LZ77, from http://www.infinitepartitions.com/art001.ht

by rrss 7y ago

I don't think humans are well matched to consuming compressed text. The first 17 verses of genesis, post LZ77, from http://www.infinitepartitions.com/art001.html http://www.infinitepartitions.com/art001.html: 001:001 In the beginning God created<25, 5>heaven an<14, 6>earth. 0<63, 5>2 A<23, 12> was without form,<55, 5>void;<9, 5>darkness<40, 4> <0, 7>upo<132, 6>face of<11, 5>deep.<93, 9>Spirit<27, 4><158, 4>mov<156, 3><54, 4><67, 9><62, 16>w<191, 3>rs<167, 9>3<73, 5><59, 4>said, Let<38, 4>r<248, 4> light:<225, 8>re<197, 5><20, 5><63, 9>4<63, 11>w<96, 5><31, 5>,<10, 3>at <153, 3><50, 4>good<70, 6><40, 4>divid<323, 6><165, 9><52, 5> from<227, 6><269, 7><102, 9>5<102, 9>call<384, 7><52, 6>Day,<388, 9><326, 9><11, 3><41, 6><98, 9>N<183, 5><406, 10><443, 3><469, 4><57, 8>mor<15, 5>w<231, 4><308, 5>irst<80, 3>y<132, 9>6<299, 28>a<48, 4>mamen<246, 3><437, 6>midst<375, 7><134, 9><383, 6><177, 6>le<290, 5><272, 6><413, 11><264, 10><429, 15>7<129, 9>mad<166, 9><117, 6><82, 6><348, 11><76, 8>which<215, 5><600, 10>nder<62, 14><115, 16><54, 11> ab<599, 3><197, 13><54, 9><470, 6><487, 7>so<169, 9>8<432, 20><108, 10>H<827, 5><397, 25><103, 9><405, 17>seco<814, 5><406, 10>9<406, 22><199, 8><235, 10><944, 7><428, 3>ga<439, 5><540, 10>toge<18, 4><45, 3>to one pl<820, 3><422, 10><604, 5>ry l<16, 4>app<981, 3><250, 8><474, 11><258, 12>10<258, 20><67, 9>E<1046, 4>;<638, 9><145, 6><234, 4><138, 8><86, 9><952, 13><75, 8><1018, 4>eas<853, 10><894, 6><883, 14><138, 9>1<290, 23><1179, 6>b<119, 5><1173, 3><11, 3>grass,<302, 7>rb<132, 9>yield<38, 4>seed<879, 10>fru<111, 3>tree<33, 10><19, 6>af<174, 3> hi<1229, 10>kin<57, 3>whose<69, 5> is<809, 4>itself,<1260, 10><148, 5><599, 23>1<1367, 16>brou<1082, 5><189, 12><58, 4><189, 4><181, 14><136, 9><154, 9><146, 7><204, 8><198, 19><175, 13><138, 4>i<1369, 10><184, 8><78, 14><401, 39>3<1160, 42>thir<753, 13>14<1460, 33>s<1155, 8><882, 10><1159, 15><780, 7><749, 3><1150, 11><100, 3><1031, 10>n<72, 4>;<769, 12>m<95, 4><361, 3><68, 9>sign<367, 7><22, 3><293, 3>aso<16, 12><79, 3><13, 7>y<430, 3>s:<192, 8><1486, 6><85, 15><185, 31><177, 10><126, 9>giv<1541, 8><573, 38>6<1343, 15>wo<562, 3><2001, 3><122, 7>;<906, 6><2019, 5><142, 7><288, 4>rul<1277, 14>d<1650, 12>l<1646, 3><45, 20><319, 6>:<937, 4><1452, 9>st<261, 3><647, 10>l<154, 11><1498, 10>s<278, 8><264, 33><256, 11><2099, 18><264, 5>,

personjerry 7y ago
I'm not familiar with the gzip algorithm unfortunately. But imagine, if you're familiar with Vim, that each character in English represented some "idea" and combining them together combined the ideas just like in Vim. Then with 4 letters you could theoretically reach 26^4 concepts. Actually this is similar to how Chinese works. For example the ideogram for "grass/straw/manuscript" when combined with "berry" makes "strawberry".
- oh_sigh 7y ago
  Why don't you familiarize yourself with it then? You're basically trying to argue a point you know nothing about, and then getting snippy that people aren't "refuting" a point that you have provided no basis for. Until humans can store large amounts of arbitrary context in their heads, and look it up very rapidly, we will not be using any kind of table based compression algorithms. And that is exactly how English works. You take a basket, and a ball, and make basketball. Or grape, and soda, and make grape soda.

by rrss 7y ago

personjerry 7y ago

I'm not familiar with the gzip algorithm unfortunately. But imagine, if you're familiar with Vim, that each character in English represented some "idea" and combining them together combined the ideas just like in Vim. Then with 4 letters you could theoretically reach 26^4 concepts. Actually this is similar to how Chinese works. For example the ideogram for "grass/straw/manuscript" when combined with "berry" makes "strawberry".

oh_sigh 7y ago
Why don't you familiarize yourself with it then? You're basically trying to argue a point you know nothing about, and then getting snippy that people aren't "refuting" a point that you have provided no basis for. Until humans can store large amounts of arbitrary context in their heads, and look it up very rapidly, we will not be using any kind of table based compression algorithms. And that is exactly how English works. You take a basket, and a ball, and make basketball. Or grape, and soda, and make grape soda.