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A lot of effort has gone into this; it's a shame to see so many disparaging posts here. I think the developers should be applauded for their work. Between this

by vilya 16y ago

A lot of effort has gone into this; it's a shame to see so many disparaging posts here. I think the developers should be applauded for their work. Between this and Ubuntu's plans to adopt Wayland in place of X, there are some interesting times ahead for Linux on the desktop. I, for one, am looking forward to seeing how it all plays out.

snprbob86 16y ago
The developers absolutely deserve to be applauded for their work, but declaring it as "simply beautiful" is almost laughable. I think that it's actually quite ugly. And even if you disagree, I don't think it's fair to call your own work beautiful unless you've proven that the overwhelming majority consistently enjoys your aesthetic.
- rbanffy 16y ago
  For a lot of people, Justin Bieber is a great musician. Popularity is not a trustworthy indicator of artistic merit.
  - BCM43 16y ago
    Popularity is not a trustworthy indicator of artistic merit. How else would you define it?
    - rbanffy 16y ago
      Artistic quality is one of those things that defy definition. It may be that it's aesthetically pleasing, or it may be that its design communicate some other inner quality or a completely different idea. It may be that the inner quality, in itself, has some aesthetic quality, much like a beautiful mathematical proof.
    - powellc 16y ago
      Read 'Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance' Cliched as it might seem now, it address the abstract and almost mind-destroying properties of quality as well as anything can. Short answer: The feeling of high quality occurs when perception exceeds expectation; the feeling of low quality occurs when perception does not meet expectation (wikipedia).
- vilya 16y ago
  I read that as more of a goal statement than a description. Whether or not you think they've succeeded, they certainly seem to have put a lot of effort towards that goal: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/Design/ http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/Design/

by vilya 16y ago

snprbob86 16y ago

The developers absolutely deserve to be applauded for their work, but declaring it as "simply beautiful" is almost laughable. I think that it's actually quite ugly. And even if you disagree, I don't think it's fair to call your own work beautiful unless you've proven that the overwhelming majority consistently enjoys your aesthetic.

rbanffy 16y ago
For a lot of people, Justin Bieber is a great musician. Popularity is not a trustworthy indicator of artistic merit.
- BCM43 16y ago
  Popularity is not a trustworthy indicator of artistic merit. How else would you define it?
  - rbanffy 16y ago
    Artistic quality is one of those things that defy definition. It may be that it's aesthetically pleasing, or it may be that its design communicate some other inner quality or a completely different idea. It may be that the inner quality, in itself, has some aesthetic quality, much like a beautiful mathematical proof.
  - powellc 16y ago
    Read 'Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance' Cliched as it might seem now, it address the abstract and almost mind-destroying properties of quality as well as anything can. Short answer: The feeling of high quality occurs when perception exceeds expectation; the feeling of low quality occurs when perception does not meet expectation (wikipedia).
vilya 16y ago
I read that as more of a goal statement than a description. Whether or not you think they've succeeded, they certainly seem to have put a lot of effort towards that goal: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/Design/ http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/Design/