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I'm appalled that moderators edit posts over pronouns. And not sure why the gender or sexual orientation of people matters on a site where you can basically be

I'm appalled that moderators edit posts over pronouns. And not sure why the gender or sexual orientation of people matters on a site where you can basically be anonymous. I guess because I only read Stack Overflow questions from Google searches there's a whole dimension of Stack Exchange that eludes me. On Twitter I know not to engage with people that specify their pronouns on their bio, it's just a waste of time even for trolling. I guess it's something that I can extend to SE and elsewhere. And to be clear I've no problem with trans people and calling them what they want, but sometimes it's just difficult to remind it all (and confusing over different languages). About CoCs: who would have thought? Well ...

martin_a 7y ago
> And to be clear I've no problem with trans people and calling them what they want, but sometimes it's just difficult to remind it all (and confusing over different languages). But wouldn't you have to look in every profile on SE before posting an answer or comment to make sure you're up to date about the pronoun that person wants to have used? At least that's what I understood is how it's supposed to be.
- Fellshard 7y ago
  And you can be found retroactively in violation. Time is an element that is continually rebuffed in consideration of these things.
  - martin_a 7y ago
    That was the next thing I was wondering about. Will there be some "visited your profile"-marker or whatever so that somebody could be "innocent" because he did actually not visit the profile or will that visit just be mandatory before commenting on a post?
    - Fellshard 7y ago
      Not even that, but what if a post from some years back is now no longer using matching pronouns?
      - conradfr 7y ago
        Maybe pronouns needs to be stored like vat so you can match them with a date.
        TeMPOraL 7y ago
        So now, when referring to an Adam in a third person, I have to write things like "I like 2019-10-07!his answer, ..."?
        conradfr 7y ago
        Quick, can we make a business out of that?
        austincheney 7y ago
        One fair option is to outlaw pronouns in the entirety. While this is largely absurd it solves for any and all related problems of emotional distress equally to all people. More seriously though, at one point is catering to somebody's offense the line too far? I am really of the mind that online posts that voice offense or defensiveness should be flagged. To me offense is a lazy way to discard disagreement when remaining objective or simply walking away are more effective.
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- conradfr 7y ago
  It was poorly written on my part, I mostly meant trans people I would meet in real life and choosing between he or she. I guess I'm strongly against discrimination but basically don't care about the rest, especially when it's about pseudonyms on the internet where nobody cares about your gender. Maybe because I'm from the "there are no girls on the internet" meme times.

martin_a 7y ago

> And to be clear I've no problem with trans people and calling them what they want, but sometimes it's just difficult to remind it all (and confusing over different languages). But wouldn't you have to look in every profile on SE before posting an answer or comment to make sure you're up to date about the pronoun that person wants to have used? At least that's what I understood is how it's supposed to be.

Fellshard 7y ago
And you can be found retroactively in violation. Time is an element that is continually rebuffed in consideration of these things.
- martin_a 7y ago
  That was the next thing I was wondering about. Will there be some "visited your profile"-marker or whatever so that somebody could be "innocent" because he did actually not visit the profile or will that visit just be mandatory before commenting on a post?
  - Fellshard 7y ago
    Not even that, but what if a post from some years back is now no longer using matching pronouns?
    - conradfr 7y ago
      Maybe pronouns needs to be stored like vat so you can match them with a date.
      - TeMPOraL 7y ago
        So now, when referring to an Adam in a third person, I have to write things like "I like 2019-10-07!his answer, ..."?
        conradfr 7y ago
        Quick, can we make a business out of that?
        austincheney 7y ago
        One fair option is to outlaw pronouns in the entirety. While this is largely absurd it solves for any and all related problems of emotional distress equally to all people. More seriously though, at one point is catering to somebody's offense the line too far? I am really of the mind that online posts that voice offense or defensiveness should be flagged. To me offense is a lazy way to discard disagreement when remaining objective or simply walking away are more effective.
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conradfr 7y ago
It was poorly written on my part, I mostly meant trans people I would meet in real life and choosing between he or she. I guess I'm strongly against discrimination but basically don't care about the rest, especially when it's about pseudonyms on the internet where nobody cares about your gender. Maybe because I'm from the "there are no girls on the internet" meme times.