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All the more reason to buy a Lenovo and put Linux on it.
by ivanstegic 7y ago
All the more reason to buy a Lenovo and put Linux on it.
- lars_francke 7y agoIf you do so don't get a T490 or if you do don't get an NVidia card. It'll destroy your battery life. The (Lenovo and others) forums have threads on these issue. For me idle time dropped from 11 to 3h.As someone else mentioned as well don't get the "best" WWAN Modem (850 something I believe ) as there are _no_ Linux drivers. In other news: anyone wants to buy a lightly used lenovo T490?
- kart23 7y agoIt wont destroy your battery life. I have a t480s with the nvidia card. You need to turn the card off when booting linux and just use the cpu for display. Research a bit about bumblebee and bbswitch.
- tstrimple 7y agoWait, how is "it won't destroy your battery life" somehow supported by "you need to turn off the card when booting linux". It sounds like you're saying it will destroy the battery life if it's not turned off. Did I misread that?
- kart23 7y agoSorry, I should have been more clear. Do you have a reason to use the graphics card on battery in Linux? Most people don't, so turning it off makes sense. You didn't misread it.
- lars_francke 7y agoThe problem is that on the T490 you can't turn it off. It never enters power saving states on Linux and there's no UEFI option to disable it. There's plenty of threads on the Lenovo forums about this.
- xnyan 7y agoAgree. I use macs every day, but long has passed the time that all the mac hardware you bought was available to use however you wanted. Sorry if I sound bitter, but I've been burned by Apple arbitrarily stopping me from doing something with my own hardware too often to be happy about it.
- vinceguidry 7y agoBe careful which one you buy, my X1 Yoga did not do well at all with it. Typing this on a Purism Librem 13
- ivanstegic 7y agoBought an X1C7 and the only thing I can’t use is my Fibocom LTE modem and finger print scanner. Works great OOTB. Arch has the most complete compatibility info out there: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Lenovo_ThinkPad_X1_Carbon_(Gen_7) https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Lenovo_ThinkPad_X1_Carb...
- bproven 7y agoMight be. Stick to T series Thinkpads or X1 Carbon and there aren't any problems. I personally think the X1 Carbon is a PERFECT replacement for a macbook. The only thing lagging is the trackpad. Its not bad but no PC trackpad is quite as good as the macbook one. Plus the X1 Carbon keyboard is a luxury to type on - esp compared to the current macbook keyboards. However it is not enough of a burden these days (to me) to make it worth going to a macbook pro these days...
- factotvm 7y agoHow do you like the Purism Librem? I'm a long-time MacBook user but have been looking around (and holding onto my late-2013). I'm curious about the build quality of the Purism machines. I'm willing to spend quite a bit on my tools. And I still remember the issues that ThinkPad's had with backdoors... so, I'd love to find something that has a high build-quality and puts the user first.
- sneak 7y agoAlternately, all the more reason to carry a travel router and only have that MAC talk to the upstream. (Added benefit is that it can auto VPN all traffic, and also you don’t have to configure your other wi-fi devices (phone, tablet(s), watch, second computer, et c) with whatever local temp wi-fi you are using that day.) SIP on osx is way more user-friendly than selinux.
- new_realist 7y agoWhat's a good example of a travel router?
- redler 7y agoSomething like the GL.iNet (sic) AR750 does the trick.
- noonespecial 7y agoI carry a GL.iNet GL-MT300N-V2 (Mango) with my own build of openWRT on it. Allows for all sorts of network hackery. Powers right from the usb port on my laptop. I never connect "bare" to a public network without it. I'd give up a considerable amount of battery capacity to have it built in to the laptop.
- greggman2 7y agoCan you run OpenWRT in a VM and have the laptop connect to the VM and the VM to the network?
- steve19 7y agoHow do you use it to login to captive WiFi portals?
- noonespecial 7y agoNormally captive portals are just keyed on MAC and done through DNS redirect. In this case, just using a browser though the Mango in NAT Lan->Wifi works fine. This is nice because your Mango can then share that authenticated connection amongst many local devices (like my phone). In rare cases where broadcast is required or even more diabolical network asshattery is afoot, I create a bridge on the Mango Lan<->Wifi with brctl. Of course, then your laptops ethernet MAC is exposed to the Wifi on the other side of your Mango. Even then, I've got a pretty snazzy etables filter to keep that hot mess under control.
- Gene_Parmesan 7y agoI have a P1 Thinkpad and absolutely love it, but Lenovo isn't necessarily a saint either. Really though, who is anymore.
- ScottFree 7y agoI booted Ubuntu on my Lenovo about a week ago. The first thing I tried to do was adjust the acceleration on the trackpad. There is no GUI for this like in other operating systems, so I spent a good hour fiddling with config files before I gave up and switched back to my Macbook Pro. I use my mouse considerably more often than I change my WiFi mac address.
- flotwig 7y agoI do agree that trackpad support on Linux isn't the greatest, but you could have used the GNOME Tweaks settings application (GUI) to change your mouse acceleration profile. Maybe next time :)
- opencl 7y agoThis is a great example of what has always bugged me about Tweaks, the discoverability is horrible. People look through the Settings app, don't find what they want to change, and then assume there is no easy way to change it. How the hell is the average user supposed to know that GNOME Tweaks even exists?
- bproven 7y agoI agree the Linux desktop has a come a LONG way in recent years and it is soooo close. It is stupid stuff like this that holds it back - the last little small tweaks that make like easier. Tweaks should just be part of Gnome - period. Put it in Settings - at minimum put it under and "Advanced" settings.
- ScottFree 7y ago> I agree the Linux desktop has a come a LONG way in recent years and it is soooo close. I've been hearing that since the late 90s. The uncomfortable truth is that Linux will never be a suitable Desktop environment because the Linux community doesn't care about the Desktop market. Ubuntu, Red Hat and various open source funds have more than enough money to hire top notch UX designers. But, they don't.
- clessg 7y agoHow does the WSL compare to full-blown Linux/macOS these days?
- the8472 7y agoCan't run perf or docker in wsl1. wsl2 is a linux vm with better host integration than usual due to the guest tools from microsoft.
- rdiddly 7y agoNot really a viable replacement if you rely on X11 or any GUI stuff. If you're content in a command shell you can do a lot though and it integrates nicely with the environment.
- bluedino 7y agoText console is glitchy
- 131012 7y agoand you still need to use windows filesystem, which was a dealbreaker for me.
- zelly 7y agoIt's a better alternative to Cygwin, but Cygwin wasn't all that useful before. There are just too many differences between Linux and Windows. You are better off using Windows as a thin client SSHing into a remote Linux session.
- bproven 7y agoWSL2 might be better when it gets released in final form, but when I used WSL it was better than cygwin etc but still a PITA to deal with. Personally I think Linux (Fedora or Ubuntu) on Lenovo Thinkpads - esp X1 Carbons is the best option.
- faissaloo 7y agoOr just buy Purism or System76 to help fund the Linux computer industry.
- hanklazard 7y agoYep, Xcode is pretty much the only reason for me to have a Mac these days.
- zelly 7y agohttps://github.com/foxlet/macOS-Simple-KVM https://github.com/foxlet/macOS-Simple-KVM
- heavyset_go 7y agoYep. I've used Macs since Apple's first Intel release because they were good, hackable x86 machines. That's no longer the case, and I already use Ubuntu. The switch will be easy, and as an added bonus, it will be cheaper.
- zelly 7y agoFor XCode, you can easily run macOS in QEMU with GPU passthrough. Linux is the best general purpose OS unless you're technically illiterate. https://github.com/foxlet/macOS-Simple-KVM https://github.com/foxlet/macOS-Simple-KVM
- saagarjha 7y agoWouldn’t that be quite slow?
- p7IDD243 7y agoIf it's fast enough to run triple A video games at an accecptable stable framerate, it should be fast enough to run an IDE.
- simcop2387 7y agoThe key here is GPU passthrough, giving it real graphics hardware means that it's near native (there's still overhead, but it's on the order of 5% compared to completely native).
- zelly 7y agoWorks on my machine. There's virtually no difference between bare metal. Of course you need enough cores and dynamic memory (GPU memory too) to run your host OS and macOS. No benchmarks but it feels snappier than my 2017 MBP.
- johnisgood 7y agoOther links that may be helpful: https://github.com/kholia/OSX-KVM https://github.com/kholia/OSX-KVM https://collaboradev.com/2018/10/19/arch-linux-running-osx-high-sierra-in-qemu/ https://collaboradev.com/2018/10/19/arch-linux-running-osx-h...
- AlEinstein 7y agoNote that this violates the macOS licensing conditions unless you're running on Apple hardware.
- diminoten 7y agoSorry, but Linux desktop environments are still 10+ years behind both Windows and macOS.
- anoncake 7y agoI'm not looking forward to the ads and spyware I'll get in 10+ years.