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> The data bears this out I'd really appreciate a citation on that.

• kenjackson 16y ago
  See my other post, which contains some. If you don't think those are satisfactory (and please state why), I have more.
  • kenjackson 16y ago
    I find it interesting that I was downmodded on this. They ask for citations, I provided them. People wanted different kinds of data, I got data to address their points. I don't think the problem is the citations or the data, but rather the viewpoint. Lets be clear, you don't want citations or data. You want me to change my mind.
    • alex_c 16y ago
      The downvoting's annoying. I don't agree with you, but you're presenting your argument calmly, clearly, and with supporting links - I think that's always valuable.
      • callahad 16y ago
        Hear hear. Seriously, this is how discussions should work. Ken stated that there was data, I asked for it, and he delivered in spades. Sadly, his HN Karma is close to net-negative for this thread, while mine's shot up by a few tens of points. Things absolutely should not work that way.