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Throw in taxis, Uber, lyft and you have all your cars again. A city like Manhattan would not make it without taxis

by throwaway122378 7y ago

izacus 7y ago
Why not? Aren't people capable of walking for a few blocks?
- emidln 7y ago
  Not all people.
  - izacus 7y ago
    Sure, but in my city that was supplemented by (free) electric vehicles for people who can't walk. Why isn't that possible in rich US hosting companies like Uber and Lyft? Aren't they capable of providing zero EV transport in closed enclaves?
  - CydeWeys 7y ago
    >99% of vehicle traffic is people who can walk. If we truly limit cars to just those who need them for reasons of accessibility then we've basically solved the problem.
- missosoup 7y ago
  Fuck everyone with disabilities yeah? ALS? Just walk a few blocks! Parkinson's? Just walk a few blocks! Dystrophy? Just walk a few blocks! Life isn't hard enough for these individuals so let's kick it up a notch by rolling out exclusively ableist transportation.
  - telchar 7y ago
    You say that like electric wheelchairs and scooters don't exist. People too disabled to even use those already require assistance anyway, so they're no worse off requiring assistance in a (nearly) car-free environment.
    - missosoup 7y ago
      As someone who suffers one of the above and uses taxi services on a daily basis, that's a load of crap and such a change would make my life significantly worse. I'm not n=1, I'm a member of an entire demographic that clearly know nothing about but feel confident enough to make broad sweeping nonsense claims.
kiliantics 7y ago
I don't see why, I can get by there just fine without taxis...
CydeWeys 7y ago
No, you definitely don't have exceptions for taxis. Why are you saying that we wouldn't survive without taxis?? I almost never take them except to the airport, and I'm easily willing to give that up if it means I don't have to tangle with horrible congested car traffic on a daily basis. Do you live in Manhattan? What makes you so sure we couldn't survive without taxis, given that we have the densest subway network in the United States, even more bus lines than that, and Citibike?
- missosoup 7y ago
  > What makes you so sure we couldn't survive without taxis, given that we have the densest subway network in the United States, even more bus lines than that, and Citibike? lmao imagine high paid consultants politicians and tv celebrities on Citibike.
  - danharaj 7y ago
    They take the subway, tho
  - CydeWeys 7y ago
    Plenty of them already take the subway, and the rest of them will too once cars aren't an option. Am I supposed to feel sorry for them for having to take the subway with the rest of us plebes? They don't deserve any better than the rest of us.
- humanrebar 7y ago
  > I almost never take them except to the airport... And you probably have functioning limbs, respiratory system, eyes, etc. > ...the densest subway network in the United States... Manhattan is not very accessible. The stations do not have elevators in most cases. The platforms are narrow and often dangerously crowded at peak hours. As an experiment, I suggest you push a bad of flour around in a stroller for a week or two. Be sure to have a bag with at least a diaper, wipes, and a bottle with you. After the experiment, imagine doing it after recovering from a recent surgery.
  - 7y ago
riquito 7y ago
Aren't you assuming that they would be replaced by nothing? As an example you can then add more buses with more predictable timelines, electric bycicles, etc...

Throw in taxis, Uber, lyft and you have all your cars again. A city like Manhattan would not make it without taxis

izacus 7y ago

Why not? Aren't people capable of walking for a few blocks?

emidln 7y ago
Not all people.
- izacus 7y ago
  Sure, but in my city that was supplemented by (free) electric vehicles for people who can't walk. Why isn't that possible in rich US hosting companies like Uber and Lyft? Aren't they capable of providing zero EV transport in closed enclaves?
- CydeWeys 7y ago
  >99% of vehicle traffic is people who can walk. If we truly limit cars to just those who need them for reasons of accessibility then we've basically solved the problem.
missosoup 7y ago
Fuck everyone with disabilities yeah? ALS? Just walk a few blocks! Parkinson's? Just walk a few blocks! Dystrophy? Just walk a few blocks! Life isn't hard enough for these individuals so let's kick it up a notch by rolling out exclusively ableist transportation.
- telchar 7y ago
  You say that like electric wheelchairs and scooters don't exist. People too disabled to even use those already require assistance anyway, so they're no worse off requiring assistance in a (nearly) car-free environment.
  - missosoup 7y ago
    As someone who suffers one of the above and uses taxi services on a daily basis, that's a load of crap and such a change would make my life significantly worse. I'm not n=1, I'm a member of an entire demographic that clearly know nothing about but feel confident enough to make broad sweeping nonsense claims.

kiliantics 7y ago

I don't see why, I can get by there just fine without taxis...

CydeWeys 7y ago

No, you definitely don't have exceptions for taxis. Why are you saying that we wouldn't survive without taxis?? I almost never take them except to the airport, and I'm easily willing to give that up if it means I don't have to tangle with horrible congested car traffic on a daily basis. Do you live in Manhattan? What makes you so sure we couldn't survive without taxis, given that we have the densest subway network in the United States, even more bus lines than that, and Citibike?

missosoup 7y ago
> What makes you so sure we couldn't survive without taxis, given that we have the densest subway network in the United States, even more bus lines than that, and Citibike? lmao imagine high paid consultants politicians and tv celebrities on Citibike.
- danharaj 7y ago
  They take the subway, tho
- CydeWeys 7y ago
  Plenty of them already take the subway, and the rest of them will too once cars aren't an option. Am I supposed to feel sorry for them for having to take the subway with the rest of us plebes? They don't deserve any better than the rest of us.
humanrebar 7y ago
> I almost never take them except to the airport... And you probably have functioning limbs, respiratory system, eyes, etc. > ...the densest subway network in the United States... Manhattan is not very accessible. The stations do not have elevators in most cases. The platforms are narrow and often dangerously crowded at peak hours. As an experiment, I suggest you push a bad of flour around in a stroller for a week or two. Be sure to have a bag with at least a diaper, wipes, and a bottle with you. After the experiment, imagine doing it after recovering from a recent surgery.
- 7y ago

riquito 7y ago

Aren't you assuming that they would be replaced by nothing? As an example you can then add more buses with more predictable timelines, electric bycicles, etc...