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We do not have unquestionable alternatives to nuclear in Germany for generating electricity to power an industrial country on a stable rate. The demand for powe

We do not have unquestionable alternatives to nuclear in Germany for generating electricity to power an industrial country on a stable rate. The demand for power will additionally grow with adoption of electric cars. For densely populated industrial country in Germany’s climate zone using renewables can be disasterous - we already pay too much for electricity, wind and solar panels are space-inefficient, we does not seem to be able to build grid infrastructure to efficiently support them. We know and can build secure nuclear power plants - we made great progress there. They will help Germany to shut coal plants faster and buy time to research and develop alternatives, maybe we will get to fusion power plants in our lifetime. Also, there is a problem that there are no serious healthy discussions about it now in Germany: loud voices prevail, the moderate people are afraid to share different opinions; a single large party in conservative opposition, AfD, does deny human impact on the climate change, so they cannot be a moderate voice of sanity. May it be that investing in renewables is not a good focus for Germany now, are there better areas that we should focus on to save the planet?

socialdemocrat 7y ago
It makes a lot more sense to build gas power plants as a stop gap measure. Built them to support gasification of biomass. Thus you can due feel them with natural gas or biomass as needed. This is much faster to get going and cheaper than nuclear. With nuclear you spend such an enormous amount of money building it, that there is not going back on the decision afterwards. Nuclear power plants are having enormous cost overruns and they keep the project going because they don't want tens of billions of euros to be for nothing. I'd say build gas power plants to buy some time to get the grid working better. Some coal plants can be converted to biomass plants.
- playing_colours 7y ago
  It is an option to explore, particularly regarding using biomass. I see some concerns about it though: - CO2 emission of gas power plants, - dependence on the import of natural gas - it means dependence on Russia.
the8472 7y ago
> wind and solar panels are space-inefficient Wind does not take up much space. You can place them in agricultural areas, at seas or even in mountain highlands. Solar placed on roofs or over parking spaces does not compete with anything for space either. Even installing it on grasslands is less terrible than it seems, it does not create deserts because enough sunlight gets through between the panels to let planets grow in the shade.

socialdemocrat 7y ago

It makes a lot more sense to build gas power plants as a stop gap measure. Built them to support gasification of biomass. Thus you can due feel them with natural gas or biomass as needed. This is much faster to get going and cheaper than nuclear. With nuclear you spend such an enormous amount of money building it, that there is not going back on the decision afterwards. Nuclear power plants are having enormous cost overruns and they keep the project going because they don't want tens of billions of euros to be for nothing. I'd say build gas power plants to buy some time to get the grid working better. Some coal plants can be converted to biomass plants.

playing_colours 7y ago
It is an option to explore, particularly regarding using biomass. I see some concerns about it though: - CO2 emission of gas power plants, - dependence on the import of natural gas - it means dependence on Russia.

the8472 7y ago

> wind and solar panels are space-inefficient Wind does not take up much space. You can place them in agricultural areas, at seas or even in mountain highlands. Solar placed on roofs or over parking spaces does not compete with anything for space either. Even installing it on grasslands is less terrible than it seems, it does not create deserts because enough sunlight gets through between the panels to let planets grow in the shade.