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Reading some of Monica’s commentary on this, it pains me to conclude that she doesn’t know just how bad the situation is. She appears to have approached the iss
by lesstenseflow 7y ago
Reading some of Monica’s commentary on this, it pains me to conclude that she doesn’t know just how bad the situation is. She appears to have approached the issue in question respectfully and highlighted her concerns diplomatically, and she believes there must be a “big misunderstanding” because of the extreme response with which she was met. Surely all parties are interested in reaching an outcome everyone can live with, right? Wrong.
The reason her questions and were met with summary punishment was due to the fact that the moral crusaders she was attempting to engage with do not tolerate ideological noncompliance. There was no “misunderstanding.” Chipps and the rest could detect that she was likely to continue to ask questions about the policy, and anyone who dares question such policies is clearly a “bigot” and a “transphobe,” and why would you want someone like that to be a moderator?
Word to the wise: people like this (moral crusaders) will not hesitate to burn your organization to the ground if they don’t get their way. They’ll run coups (like this), condemn you on Twitter, and scare everyone into first being silent, then leaving the org, either out of fear of being the next to be condemned, or just the exhaustion of dealing with it all. I have seen this happen to non-profits, conferences, even private school boards (take a look at Oberlin for an example). If you get crusaders like this in your org, you should consider it an existential threat.
Well, off to delete my Stack Overflow account.
- Flow 7y agoI just deleted mine. Then I discovered on that delete page that you have to separately delete the accounts you might have on other exchanges. This is bad UX. I searched the net for a bit and it seems the way to do it is via: - https://stackoverflow.com/contact https://stackoverflow.com/contact - Select Other in the drop-down list, - Then you enter a message that you want them to do delete your accounts for you.
- wendyshu 7y agoIn terms familiar to users of the religion stack exchanges: zealotry -> schism -> excommunication.
- mattmaroon 7y agoYeah I made the mistake of reading about this. This stuff is why Republicans win elections. If the tech world doesn't realize that having only people on the left and people on the far left is not cultural diversity it will be plagued with this stuff forever.
- thephyber 7y ago> Well, off to delete my Stack Overflow account Don't delete your account -- that's a half-measure. Never use the sites again. Not even the Google / DuckDuckGo SERP clips or some CopyLeft derivative.
- matheusmoreira 7y ago> The reason her questions and were met with summary punishment was due to the fact that the moral crusaders she was attempting to engage with do not tolerate ideological noncompliance. > If you get crusaders like this in your org, you should consider it an existential threat. Completely agree. This destructive behavior alone should be reason enough to reject these people, regardless of the merits of their cause. Nobody should be excluded for questioning some rules or debating some definitions or whatever. I won't delete my account but I will refrain from contributing to the site in the future.