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It would be a good idea to use better baselines for noise pollution than helicopters and airplanes of today. Perhaps like this - Life in the Spanish City that b
by dchichkov 7y ago
It would be a good idea to use better baselines for noise pollution than helicopters and airplanes of today.
Perhaps like this - Life in the Spanish City that banned cars. https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2018/sep/18/paradise-life-spanish-city-banned-cars-pontevedra https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2018/sep/18/paradise-life...
This is about how much noise your aircraft are allowed to create. What you should be able to hear in the street are "the tweeting of birds in the camellias, the tinkle of coffee spoons and the sound of human voices".
- zizee 7y ago> This is about how much noise your aircraft are allowed to create. Sounds good. The same rules should apply to lawn mowers, motor bikes, construction, bars, stereos, drones, public transport, bands, dogs, children...
- Atheros 7y agoConstruction is temporary. Stereos and bands are played to bring enjoyment; the sound produced is the point, not a byproduct of some other motivation so those should get more of a pass. Many cities already enforce laws against persistently barking dogs and those laws can work just fine. I'm with you regarding motor bikes and public transport but the same rules should not apply to the others. They can have their own rules.
- zizee 7y agoMy comment was deliberately extreme as I believed the parent comment to be. The activities/devices I mentioned can be appropriate in certain locales, and inappropriate in others. To suggest this new vehicle has to operate at a level to not drown out birds before it can fit into society is silly. It's reasonable to place restictions on their use, e.g. you shouldn't be able to takeoff and land in quiet residential neighborhoods, instead limit them to landing on the tops of very tall buildings or transport hubs. Also, if people are allowed to use lawnmowers and loud exhausts on motorbikes, and have been doing so for years, suggesting a new technology has to be subject to more stringent restrictions is a little unfair.
- dchichkov 7y agoWhy is it silly? If someone rides a bicycle, walks or rides a subway in a city there is no noise pollution. Why noise pollution should be allowed for a guy flying his motorbike from his private hills to the urban center?
- zizee 7y agoPlease reread what I wrote. To be clear, I really dislike noise pollution, and welcome the day when noisy lawnmowers, leaf blowers, jetskis and motercycles are banned from where people live, relax, most places really. I think it is really selfish for others to produce such noise around others. What is silly is to say this noisy thing can't possibly fit into the world without hitting an extreme benchmark, when society has already accepted much worse offenders (whether you and I like it).
- dchichkov 7y agoSound from a lawn mower or a leaf blower is local and temporary. Yet cities do ban gas-powered leaf blowers. http://files.meetup.com/4709972/Leaf%20Blower%20bans,%20etc.pdf http://files.meetup.com/4709972/Leaf%20Blower%20bans,%20etc....
- mannykannot 7y agoAs someone who likes to be outdoors, I can attest to the quite remarkable frequency and persistence of lawn-mowing, anywhere within earshot of human settlement. If I could swap a passing Heaviside for each gas lawnmower I hear, I would take the trade.
- nickpinkston 7y agoTotally, motorcycles, buses, etc. are all transient noise in a city louder than this vehicle. Other comments below are acting like these VTOLs would just be hovering over our apartments all the time, but it's actually closer to normal city sounds.