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Key findings are here - https://bit.ly/2OqMoyD https://bit.ly/2OqMoyD At a 5% significance level, the hazard ratios posted there are clearly not significant. M
by dxbydt 7y ago
Key findings are here - https://bit.ly/2OqMoyD https://bit.ly/2OqMoyD
At a 5% significance level, the hazard ratios posted there are clearly not significant. Most of them are reasonably close to 1.0 - so there is basically no difference in mortality between the control & treatment arm. Sample size is very large, n=48000.
The data he used is public & verifiable, so am not sure what digging into this person's private life has to do. Whether he is funded by meat industry or eats beef himself is as relevant as the color of his underwear.
In the study, he says "issues of animal welfare and potential environmental impact... is outside the scope. Related to this, we took an individual rather than a societal perspective."
Taking an individual perspective is imo the right thing to do. He further explicitly says if you are concerned about global warming etc. this study isn't about that. So he's being blunt & honest.
Those who are batting for the other team, like the opposing researchers & NYT etc. are questioning not the stats or the methodology but the fact that if you make public policy based on this, it will undoubtedly be bad for the environment. Which it will. But that's not the point of the study now, is it ? The researcher himself says it is not the point.
- coldtea 7y ago>The data he used is public & verifiable, so am not sure what digging into this person's private life has to do. Whether he is funded by meat industry or eats beef himself is as relevant as the color of his underwear. First, it's a matter of principle. Second, there are 1000 ways to slice and dice and present findings the way you want, even if the data are "public & verifiable". Heck, you can spin things even if the processing you did is reproducible and freely available (e.g. as a script) AND the results are against your bias -- in the wording and tone of your paper.
- iron0013 7y agoRecognizing a failure to disclose a conflict of interest is not “digging into this person's private life“
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