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Jailed Pirate Party member becomes Tunisian government minister

92 points by mcantelon 16y ago

michaelty 16y ago
Pirates, pirates everywhere!
- Gianteye 16y ago
  Apparently you can't have a party, even a political one, without "Arrrrrr."
pavel_lishin 16y ago
> Several junior ministers have already walked out after it became clear that key jobs, including interior and defense, won't be changing hands. For its part, the new government has pledged to hold a full slate of elections within the next few months, saying that current ministers were still needed to maintain stability during the transition period. You just had a revolution, guys.
- malkia 16y ago
  Where was the mainstream media on that one? And thank you ArsTechnica!
  - rmah 16y ago
    The NYTimes had extensive coverage of the situation in Tunisia.
  - danohuiginn 16y ago
    Where was the social media? Seriously: most mainstream outlets I follow have devoted a reasonable amount of space to Tunisia, albeit hampered by an obvious lack of experts on the situation there. Social media? very little. Pretty much the only stuff I've seen has come via the pirate parties or the far left. Possibly it's just my friends and contacts being unusual -- but my hunch is that if you tried to quantify online attention to Tunisia, you'd find it lower than in the mainstream press.
    - cabalamat 16y ago
      > Where was the social media? There's been quite a lot of coverage on Reddit, e.g.: http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/f3zyh/new_government_formed_in_tunisia_list_of/ http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/f3zyh/new_governm... http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/f42mk/arrested_pirate_party_member_becomes_tunisian/ http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/f42mk/arrested_pi... http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/f4jdq/new_tunisian_government_declares_total_liberty_of/ http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/f4jdq/new_tunisia... http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/f4nvx/israel_dreading_a_democratic_arab_world_israeli/ http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/f4nvx/israel_drea... http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/f4lpn/juan_cole_tunisia_uprising_spearheaded_by_labor/ http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/f4lpn/juan_cole_t...
      - danohuiginn 16y ago
        Note that 3 of those are links to mainstream media outlets. Of the other 2, one is torrentfreak talking about the pirate angle (which is the right angle for them, and fascinating as a reflection of the growing international seriousness of the pirate movement -- but is perhaps not the most important part of the revolution). I kind of expect the online world to put the professionals to shame in depth and insight of coverage. Often that does happen -- here, not so much.
jdp23 16y ago
Is http://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=slim http://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=slim Hacker News' first high-level government official? :-) The Guardian also covered this in http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jan/18/tunisia-dissident-blogger-minister http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jan/18/tunisia-dissiden...
electromagnetic 16y ago
Now the question is: Is diplomatic immunity retroactive?
bitskits 16y ago
It will be interesting to see just how much influence he's able to have. Even without being the leader of a major government, this could make a difference in how the party is perceived. Just having a Pirate Party member in government is pretty significant, IMO.
- cabalamat 16y ago
  > It will be interesting to see just how much influence he's able to have. The giovernemtn have said there will be democratic elections within 60 days. If they renege on this, it would probably make sense for him to resign, lest he be seen as a collaborator with the old regime. > Just having a Pirate Party member in government is pretty significant, IMO. He's the first Pirate in government, as far as I know.
hermanthegerman 16y ago
Oops - maybe the ruling class in Tunisia should have made the state their intellectual property.
mahmud 16y ago
I would be cautious about celebrating this. It might be a bit of a tokenism; the former runner ups are replacing Bin-Ali and his family, and they might be trying to hijack the revolution by placating the youth.
- cabalamat 16y ago
  I'm reminded of the Romanian revolution in 1989, when some of the 2nd tier of Communist leaders started calling themselves the "National Salvation Front" and stayed in power.
Joakal 16y ago
I read that he's the "State Secretary for Youth and Sports." Not quite a minister.
- fab13n 16y ago
  That's most likely a direct transposition from French "secretaire d'etat", which is just a junior minister.

92 points by mcantelon 16y ago

michaelty 16y ago

Pirates, pirates everywhere!

Gianteye 16y ago
Apparently you can't have a party, even a political one, without "Arrrrrr."

pavel_lishin 16y ago

> Several junior ministers have already walked out after it became clear that key jobs, including interior and defense, won't be changing hands. For its part, the new government has pledged to hold a full slate of elections within the next few months, saying that current ministers were still needed to maintain stability during the transition period. You just had a revolution, guys.

malkia 16y ago
Where was the mainstream media on that one? And thank you ArsTechnica!
- rmah 16y ago
  The NYTimes had extensive coverage of the situation in Tunisia.
- danohuiginn 16y ago
  Where was the social media? Seriously: most mainstream outlets I follow have devoted a reasonable amount of space to Tunisia, albeit hampered by an obvious lack of experts on the situation there. Social media? very little. Pretty much the only stuff I've seen has come via the pirate parties or the far left. Possibly it's just my friends and contacts being unusual -- but my hunch is that if you tried to quantify online attention to Tunisia, you'd find it lower than in the mainstream press.
  - cabalamat 16y ago
    > Where was the social media? There's been quite a lot of coverage on Reddit, e.g.: http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/f3zyh/new_government_formed_in_tunisia_list_of/ http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/f3zyh/new_governm... http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/f42mk/arrested_pirate_party_member_becomes_tunisian/ http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/f42mk/arrested_pi... http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/f4jdq/new_tunisian_government_declares_total_liberty_of/ http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/f4jdq/new_tunisia... http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/f4nvx/israel_dreading_a_democratic_arab_world_israeli/ http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/f4nvx/israel_drea... http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/f4lpn/juan_cole_tunisia_uprising_spearheaded_by_labor/ http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/f4lpn/juan_cole_t...
    - danohuiginn 16y ago
      Note that 3 of those are links to mainstream media outlets. Of the other 2, one is torrentfreak talking about the pirate angle (which is the right angle for them, and fascinating as a reflection of the growing international seriousness of the pirate movement -- but is perhaps not the most important part of the revolution). I kind of expect the online world to put the professionals to shame in depth and insight of coverage. Often that does happen -- here, not so much.

jdp23 16y ago

Is http://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=slim http://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=slim Hacker News' first high-level government official? :-) The Guardian also covered this in http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jan/18/tunisia-dissident-blogger-minister http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jan/18/tunisia-dissiden...

electromagnetic 16y ago

Now the question is: Is diplomatic immunity retroactive?

bitskits 16y ago

It will be interesting to see just how much influence he's able to have. Even without being the leader of a major government, this could make a difference in how the party is perceived. Just having a Pirate Party member in government is pretty significant, IMO.

cabalamat 16y ago
> It will be interesting to see just how much influence he's able to have. The giovernemtn have said there will be democratic elections within 60 days. If they renege on this, it would probably make sense for him to resign, lest he be seen as a collaborator with the old regime. > Just having a Pirate Party member in government is pretty significant, IMO. He's the first Pirate in government, as far as I know.

hermanthegerman 16y ago

Oops - maybe the ruling class in Tunisia should have made the state their intellectual property.

mahmud 16y ago

I would be cautious about celebrating this. It might be a bit of a tokenism; the former runner ups are replacing Bin-Ali and his family, and they might be trying to hijack the revolution by placating the youth.

cabalamat 16y ago
I'm reminded of the Romanian revolution in 1989, when some of the 2nd tier of Communist leaders started calling themselves the "National Salvation Front" and stayed in power.

Joakal 16y ago

I read that he's the "State Secretary for Youth and Sports." Not quite a minister.

fab13n 16y ago
That's most likely a direct transposition from French "secretaire d'etat", which is just a junior minister.