Funny you should mention Ozzy and Lemmy. Motorhead was grouped in the thrash metal camp and got lots of respect for never selling out; mid-80s Ozzy on the other

Funny you should mention Ozzy and Lemmy. Motorhead was grouped in the thrash metal camp and got lots of respect for never selling out; mid-80s Ozzy on the other hand was seen as pop metal has-been pandering to the hair metal masses. That may have changed as people rediscovered early Black Sabbath and gained a grudging respect for Ozzy's work with Randy Rhoads. Another interesting case is Glen Danzig after he left The Misfits. I saw Danzig perform in 1988 and was warned it would be "metal" but it was really heavy and slow, more like Black Sabbath and played by guys who looked like snarling barbarians. Even though all these kids had on their Misfit T shirts the crowd was really into it, because it was so good.