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I'm curious how one is attracted to precision "chemically engineered" food. As I am gaining interest week by week in consuming foods in their most natural form,

I'm curious how one is attracted to precision "chemically engineered" food. As I am gaining interest week by week in consuming foods in their most natural form, I want the opposite of what this article claims is "the future" (I'm a vegiterean too, it's not an animal VS impossible burger thing for me). What am I missing here to be excited about a future of custom fermented food products?

DoreenMichele 7y ago
A guilty conscience concerning global warming? People who don't want to personally change their lifestyle seem to frequently look for "magic" solutions at the societal level, often overlooking logic fails in the scenario that is being painted. It's like they imagine if the whole world changes, then I don't have to. Or something.
- slimed 7y ago
  Isn't that exactly what technology enables? Ways of living and solving problems that were previously impossible with little to no additional effort from the actual consumer?
  - DoreenMichele 7y ago
    If the whole world changes, your life changes with it, often in ways you didn't anticipate. If you want to keep eating like you currently eat and this prediction comes true, then you have to put in additional effort to try to keep doing the same things.
    - slimed 7y ago
      Yeah, I see now what you're getting at.
  - Spooky23 7y ago
    Not always. The shitshow of American agriculture is due to the technological wonders that moved most vegetable production to the California desert and the over utilization of the Midwest aquifers. Most of our sustainable east coast growing areas are subdivisions now.
    - slimed 7y ago
      Sure. There are always unintended consequences. In some cases they outweigh the benefits.
  - PorcinoDios 7y ago
    (Quoting:) > Isn't that exactly what technology enables? 'Ways of living with no additional 'customer-effort' ?' Yeah, I see now what you're getting at. ^^
bitL 7y ago
What would you say if you knew 50% of European produce never saw soil, and was instead growing on top of some chemical "water"? Disruptive "scientific" companies are buying high-quality cheap soil in Eastern Europe and impregnating top layer with their experimental chemical ingredients, leading to prediction the soil will be written off in 20 years; it survived thousands of years, reaching top quality, yet some get-rich-quick companies from Netherlands and Denmark destroy it within a single generation, while shouting "we are green" to their investors. I can't wait until these companies manage to disrupt the whole food production that we end up with famine.
- codesuela 7y ago
  I would like to more about this can you give me a few links for further reading about this?
- stefantalpalaru 7y ago
  > What would you say if you knew 50% of European produce never saw soil, and was instead growing on top of some chemical "water"? I'd say you're wrong by more than two orders of magnitude. Europe is not the Netherlands and produce is not lettuce.

DoreenMichele 7y ago

A guilty conscience concerning global warming? People who don't want to personally change their lifestyle seem to frequently look for "magic" solutions at the societal level, often overlooking logic fails in the scenario that is being painted. It's like they imagine if the whole world changes, then I don't have to. Or something.

slimed 7y ago
Isn't that exactly what technology enables? Ways of living and solving problems that were previously impossible with little to no additional effort from the actual consumer?
- DoreenMichele 7y ago
  If the whole world changes, your life changes with it, often in ways you didn't anticipate. If you want to keep eating like you currently eat and this prediction comes true, then you have to put in additional effort to try to keep doing the same things.
  - slimed 7y ago
    Yeah, I see now what you're getting at.
- Spooky23 7y ago
  Not always. The shitshow of American agriculture is due to the technological wonders that moved most vegetable production to the California desert and the over utilization of the Midwest aquifers. Most of our sustainable east coast growing areas are subdivisions now.
  - slimed 7y ago
    Sure. There are always unintended consequences. In some cases they outweigh the benefits.
- PorcinoDios 7y ago
  (Quoting:) > Isn't that exactly what technology enables? 'Ways of living with no additional 'customer-effort' ?' Yeah, I see now what you're getting at. ^^

bitL 7y ago

What would you say if you knew 50% of European produce never saw soil, and was instead growing on top of some chemical "water"? Disruptive "scientific" companies are buying high-quality cheap soil in Eastern Europe and impregnating top layer with their experimental chemical ingredients, leading to prediction the soil will be written off in 20 years; it survived thousands of years, reaching top quality, yet some get-rich-quick companies from Netherlands and Denmark destroy it within a single generation, while shouting "we are green" to their investors. I can't wait until these companies manage to disrupt the whole food production that we end up with famine.

codesuela 7y ago
I would like to more about this can you give me a few links for further reading about this?
stefantalpalaru 7y ago
> What would you say if you knew 50% of European produce never saw soil, and was instead growing on top of some chemical "water"? I'd say you're wrong by more than two orders of magnitude. Europe is not the Netherlands and produce is not lettuce.