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I wonder if future species will look back on humanity like we look back on the dinosaurs. Interesting to consider... there's also probably a short story in ther

I wonder if future species will look back on humanity like we look back on the dinosaurs. Interesting to consider... there's also probably a short story in there.

m0llusk 7y ago
There is an interesting theory that humans are descended from pig and primate hybrids. This may sound bizarre, but there is evidence of pig primate hybrids in the wild and so-called humanzees have been bred. This theory is also one of the few alternatives to the aquatic ape hypothesis that can explain why humans have skin that is more common for aquatic mammals.
- echelon 7y ago
  If true, there would be genetic evidence of this. I've never heard of such a thing. It sounds ridiculous. Do you have a source?
  - m0llusk 7y ago
    I'm having trouble finding the links as the recent humanzee hype currently dominates everything. ... Wait, here is the main page where this is discussed in detail with references: http://www.macroevolution.net/human-origins.html http://www.macroevolution.net/human-origins.html However, it is critical to understand that with hybrids there may be little if any genetic evidence remaining or it may be simply too scrambled to understand. Hybrids from a genetic point of view are complicated and do not necessarily leave a well defined record in their genetics.
    - fao_ 7y ago
      This somehow hits most of my alarms for "bad science", hah.
  - tastygreenapple 7y ago
    I just got this from googling, it seems less crack pot-y than I imagined: https://phys.org/news/2013-07-chimp-pig-hybrid-humans.html https://phys.org/news/2013-07-chimp-pig-hybrid-humans.html
- DoreenMichele 7y ago
  I've never heard that before, but it immediately made me think of this: Pig hearts are used to study the anatomy of human hearts because they are very similar in structure, size and function to human hearts. https://education.seattlepi.com/pig-hearts-used-study-anatomy-human-heart-6155.html https://education.seattlepi.com/pig-hearts-used-study-anatom...
- taneq 7y ago
  > there is evidence of pig primate hybrids in the wild I'm sorry, what?
  - mirekrusin 7y ago
    Peppa pig?
  - 52-6F-62 7y ago
    This is a first for me, too. Baby, baby, it’s a wild world...
- emmelaich 7y ago
  PZ Myers criticized this here: https://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2013/07/02/the-mfap-hypothesis-for-the-origins-of-homo-sapiens https://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2013/07/02/the-mfap-hypo... I still like to think that hybridization played a greater role in evolution than we now suppose. The proponent (Eugene M McCarthy) has some amazing examples of cross-species fertilization but also some pretty crack-potty stuff. His website is http://www.macroevolution.net/ http://www.macroevolution.net/

I wonder if future species will look back on humanity like we look back on the dinosaurs. Interesting to consider... there's also probably a short story in there.

m0llusk 7y ago

There is an interesting theory that humans are descended from pig and primate hybrids. This may sound bizarre, but there is evidence of pig primate hybrids in the wild and so-called humanzees have been bred. This theory is also one of the few alternatives to the aquatic ape hypothesis that can explain why humans have skin that is more common for aquatic mammals.

echelon 7y ago
If true, there would be genetic evidence of this. I've never heard of such a thing. It sounds ridiculous. Do you have a source?
- m0llusk 7y ago
  I'm having trouble finding the links as the recent humanzee hype currently dominates everything. ... Wait, here is the main page where this is discussed in detail with references: http://www.macroevolution.net/human-origins.html http://www.macroevolution.net/human-origins.html However, it is critical to understand that with hybrids there may be little if any genetic evidence remaining or it may be simply too scrambled to understand. Hybrids from a genetic point of view are complicated and do not necessarily leave a well defined record in their genetics.
  - fao_ 7y ago
    This somehow hits most of my alarms for "bad science", hah.
- tastygreenapple 7y ago
  I just got this from googling, it seems less crack pot-y than I imagined: https://phys.org/news/2013-07-chimp-pig-hybrid-humans.html https://phys.org/news/2013-07-chimp-pig-hybrid-humans.html
DoreenMichele 7y ago
I've never heard that before, but it immediately made me think of this: Pig hearts are used to study the anatomy of human hearts because they are very similar in structure, size and function to human hearts. https://education.seattlepi.com/pig-hearts-used-study-anatomy-human-heart-6155.html https://education.seattlepi.com/pig-hearts-used-study-anatom...
taneq 7y ago
> there is evidence of pig primate hybrids in the wild I'm sorry, what?
- mirekrusin 7y ago
  Peppa pig?
- 52-6F-62 7y ago
  This is a first for me, too. Baby, baby, it’s a wild world...
emmelaich 7y ago
PZ Myers criticized this here: https://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2013/07/02/the-mfap-hypothesis-for-the-origins-of-homo-sapiens https://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2013/07/02/the-mfap-hypo... I still like to think that hybridization played a greater role in evolution than we now suppose. The proponent (Eugene M McCarthy) has some amazing examples of cross-species fertilization but also some pretty crack-potty stuff. His website is http://www.macroevolution.net/ http://www.macroevolution.net/