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And food is optimized solely to be easy to transport and look good on a store shelf after a long ride rather than be healthy. And burning that liquid is one of

And food is optimized solely to be easy to transport and look good on a store shelf after a long ride rather than be healthy. And burning that liquid is one of the top contributors of global warming. For a good while we were adding lead to that liquid in the name of a better burn, despite knowing for much longer than that that lead is terrible for organic creatures like ourselves. And restructuring cities around cars has ripped out highly functional, happy neighborhoods, and brought us the suburb, with its vast expanses of identical houses miles and miles away from anything even remotely interesting, and it’s immense hostility to someone who doesn’t have a car (and it’s denizens’ immense hostility to anyone spending their tax money on improving public transit).

redblacktree 7y ago
You've painted with a pretty broad brush here; a lot of this isn't true. I suppose "remotely interesting" is a matter of opinion, but I live in a suburb that has its own "downtwon" and other amenities, to include a performance art theatre, beautiful plaza with ping pong tables, big screen TV, outdoor pool tables, etc. It's really pretty awesome if you have kids. It's also a subrub that isn't hostile to people who don't own cars. It's entirely practical to get around by bicycle. I guess the bottom line is: the hyperbole doesn't really serve your argument.
- theelous3 7y ago
  What you find interesting (some stuff for kids and some shops in a purpose built suburban plaza / mall) is likely not going to be found interesting by someone who lives in an actual city. I wouldn't consider what they said to be total hyperbole. It seems that way to you, because you're happy where you are, but that isn't for everyone. Also, by suburban standards, yours sounds like an outlier on the good side, and I still wouldn't live there. Most people don't have a nice plaza and so on thoughtfully built for their mass housing.

redblacktree 7y ago

You've painted with a pretty broad brush here; a lot of this isn't true. I suppose "remotely interesting" is a matter of opinion, but I live in a suburb that has its own "downtwon" and other amenities, to include a performance art theatre, beautiful plaza with ping pong tables, big screen TV, outdoor pool tables, etc. It's really pretty awesome if you have kids. It's also a subrub that isn't hostile to people who don't own cars. It's entirely practical to get around by bicycle. I guess the bottom line is: the hyperbole doesn't really serve your argument.

theelous3 7y ago
What you find interesting (some stuff for kids and some shops in a purpose built suburban plaza / mall) is likely not going to be found interesting by someone who lives in an actual city. I wouldn't consider what they said to be total hyperbole. It seems that way to you, because you're happy where you are, but that isn't for everyone. Also, by suburban standards, yours sounds like an outlier on the good side, and I still wouldn't live there. Most people don't have a nice plaza and so on thoughtfully built for their mass housing.