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Its not like US and Israeli hackers are doing anything different to other countries

by quotz 7y ago

jedberg 7y ago
All the more reason the US should be protecting itself from these sorts of things, don't you think?
- boomboomsubban 7y ago
  Not really. If it's fine for the US to do this, why should Iran doing it be a big problem?
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  - GhettoMaestro 7y ago
    There is a mile-wide difference in acceptable behavior endorsed "from the top down" in each system. The US, for all of its faults, attempts to reign in immoral and counter-productive behavior within its sphere of influence. Iran is a net-exporter of terrorism (methodologies, material, and financial support). And I am keeping it very civil in my description of the differences. By posing the question "[...] why should Iran doing it be a big problem?", I view you as purposely being disingenuous. You know why. The Iranian political leadership is a clear problem. To be clear about my words: The Iranian people are NOT the problem. The Iranian leadership is the problem. The Iranian people are pawns on the chess-board between the US and Iran. They are the group I feel the most sadness for in terms of who is paying the biggest cost.
    - boomboomsubban 7y ago
      >The US, for all of its faults, attempts to reign in immoral and counter-productive behavior within its sphere of influence. Iran is a net-exporter of terrorism (methodologies, material, and financial support How is exporting billions in arms to Saudi Arabia and assisting them in continuing the Yemen war/blockade attempting to reign in immoral behavior? Why is Iran's "exporting terrorism" so much worse despite killing far fewer civilians? >I view you as purposely being disingenuous. Nope. A moral high ground should not enable a country to interfere in foreign elections, nor does the US have such a moral high ground.
- quotz 7y ago
  well, at least the public shouldn't be surprised when others are doing the same. I mean if you ask for trouble why would you be surprised when trouble comes your way? US politics is extremely hypocritical and aggressive.
- JetSpiegel 7y ago
  And yet, Reality Winner is in jail for revealing foreign interference in US elections.
yyyk 7y ago
Ah, so apparently foreign interference in the US is fine? I'd say your post is whataboutry, but actually, it's not even that - you don't really have any reason to believe US or Israel do anything like that.

Its not like US and Israeli hackers are doing anything different to other countries

by quotz 7y ago

Its not like US and Israeli hackers are doing anything different to other countries

jedberg 7y ago

All the more reason the US should be protecting itself from these sorts of things, don't you think?

boomboomsubban 7y ago
Not really. If it's fine for the US to do this, why should Iran doing it be a big problem?
- deleted 7y ago
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- GhettoMaestro 7y ago
  There is a mile-wide difference in acceptable behavior endorsed "from the top down" in each system. The US, for all of its faults, attempts to reign in immoral and counter-productive behavior within its sphere of influence. Iran is a net-exporter of terrorism (methodologies, material, and financial support). And I am keeping it very civil in my description of the differences. By posing the question "[...] why should Iran doing it be a big problem?", I view you as purposely being disingenuous. You know why. The Iranian political leadership is a clear problem. To be clear about my words: The Iranian people are NOT the problem. The Iranian leadership is the problem. The Iranian people are pawns on the chess-board between the US and Iran. They are the group I feel the most sadness for in terms of who is paying the biggest cost.
  - boomboomsubban 7y ago
    >The US, for all of its faults, attempts to reign in immoral and counter-productive behavior within its sphere of influence. Iran is a net-exporter of terrorism (methodologies, material, and financial support How is exporting billions in arms to Saudi Arabia and assisting them in continuing the Yemen war/blockade attempting to reign in immoral behavior? Why is Iran's "exporting terrorism" so much worse despite killing far fewer civilians? >I view you as purposely being disingenuous. Nope. A moral high ground should not enable a country to interfere in foreign elections, nor does the US have such a moral high ground.
quotz 7y ago
well, at least the public shouldn't be surprised when others are doing the same. I mean if you ask for trouble why would you be surprised when trouble comes your way? US politics is extremely hypocritical and aggressive.
JetSpiegel 7y ago
And yet, Reality Winner is in jail for revealing foreign interference in US elections.

yyyk 7y ago

Ah, so apparently foreign interference in the US is fine? I'd say your post is whataboutry, but actually, it's not even that - you don't really have any reason to believe US or Israel do anything like that.