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Sure. But I was a lazy entitled "upper middle class" kid. I have my job because my parents could afford to support my lazy ass for so long. So yeah, if you h

Sure. But I was a lazy entitled "upper middle class" kid. I have my job because my parents could afford to support my lazy ass for so long. So yeah, if you have the grit and drive you can help yourself out to a certain point. But some of us didn't need any grit and basically coasted through life. Why do I deserve this more than kids with less well off parents that fell somewhere between me and you - not a complete lazy ass, but also not determined enough to overcome the problems and external pressures in their life?

malvosenior 7y ago
Your story is exactly why poor people should work hard. Plenty of people (not all) in the upper middle class are lazy and have had things handed to them. If you work hard, you can get ahead precisely because those people won't out compete you.
spaginal 7y ago
Because your parents worked hard for your outcome, as theirs did for them. It's the same thing that drives the success of societies and nations, each generation living on the bounty of the blood, sweat, and toil of those that came before. An outsider may view with envy at the position of the people in the society, but it doesn't diminish the rights of the people in that society to it just because they didn't make it. What happens is those societies that destroy, denigrate, or forget their history get complacent, lazy, and fail. Your parents likely failed in properly educating you in the history of your family, their trials, their successes, and you lacked context for your position in life. Deep dive into your family history, learn your ancestors, the shit they had to deal with, why you are where you are, and erase the self loathing class warfare mentality from your perspective.
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- tonyedgecombe 7y ago
  * Because your parents worked hard for your outcome, as theirs did for them.* I think you will find most poor people work a lot harder than the wealthy.
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    > I think you will find most poor people work a lot harder than the wealthy. If you want to become rich, put a small amount of money in the stock market, and then go into hibernation for 100 years. When you wake up, presto, you’ll be wealthy. This sounds implausible, but it’s basically the same process as inherited generational wealth.
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malvosenior 7y ago

Your story is exactly why poor people should work hard. Plenty of people (not all) in the upper middle class are lazy and have had things handed to them. If you work hard, you can get ahead precisely because those people won't out compete you.

spaginal 7y ago

Because your parents worked hard for your outcome, as theirs did for them. It's the same thing that drives the success of societies and nations, each generation living on the bounty of the blood, sweat, and toil of those that came before. An outsider may view with envy at the position of the people in the society, but it doesn't diminish the rights of the people in that society to it just because they didn't make it. What happens is those societies that destroy, denigrate, or forget their history get complacent, lazy, and fail. Your parents likely failed in properly educating you in the history of your family, their trials, their successes, and you lacked context for your position in life. Deep dive into your family history, learn your ancestors, the shit they had to deal with, why you are where you are, and erase the self loathing class warfare mentality from your perspective.

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tonyedgecombe 7y ago
* Because your parents worked hard for your outcome, as theirs did for them.* I think you will find most poor people work a lot harder than the wealthy.
- speedplane 7y ago
  > I think you will find most poor people work a lot harder than the wealthy. If you want to become rich, put a small amount of money in the stock market, and then go into hibernation for 100 years. When you wake up, presto, you’ll be wealthy. This sounds implausible, but it’s basically the same process as inherited generational wealth.
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